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Topic: Let's intelligently design a human being
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anglagard
Member (Idle past 859 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: 03-18-2006
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Message 16 of 26 (692632)
03-06-2013 1:30 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by xongsmith
03-05-2013 2:03 PM
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GPS
Apparently in birds and insects. save 100 bucks at tiger or newegg.
Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 17 of 26 (692635)
03-06-2013 1:44 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Pressie
03-05-2013 11:30 PM
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Re: Humans photosynthesising is not just a pipe-dream
This article was originally published in 2008 ... I think the year in which the article first appeared is not so relevant as the day and the month.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Re: Humans photosynthesising is not just a pipe-dream
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anglagard
Member (Idle past 859 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: 03-18-2006
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Message 19 of 26 (692637)
03-06-2013 3:18 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by xongsmith
03-05-2013 2:03 PM
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Sorry, Got Me Goin'
How about the ability to change sex. like Tiresias or some other vertebrates?
Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 20 of 26 (692667)
03-06-2013 11:28 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by xongsmith
03-05-2013 2:03 PM
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I think it's a mistake to design one general-purpose human. It would turn out like Windows with a lot of junk that you don't need and never gets used. Who's going to actually use better eyeballs? We should design one to be an Olympic athlete and another to watch him on TV and drink beer, one to work on an assembly line and another to watch him and drink coffee. (The beer-drinkers and coffee drinkers would need enormous bladders.) They should all be able to interbreed. It would be interesting to see if they preferred "inbreeding" or cross-breeding.
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Genomicus
Member (Idle past 1964 days) Posts: 852 Joined: 02-15-2012
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Message 21 of 26 (692670)
03-06-2013 11:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 9 by nwr
03-05-2013 7:12 PM
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Right, except I would change that "re-design" to "design". I did not claim that I am able to provide a proof. Fair point.
Here's what troubles me about ID. The ID proponents make clear that what they mostly don't like about evolution, is that they see it as too mechanistic. But you cannot have design without mechanism. You need mechanism to carry forward any design. If they are opposed to accounts that are too mechanistic, then they should be opposed to ID. I seem to recall that the Thomists make just that argument, that ID is wrong because it would require mechanism, making organisms artifacts rather than agents. I'm actually in agreement with you on this. I've been endeavoring to arrive at a mechanistic intelligent design perspective. When it comes to protein design, we already have a potential mechanism(s): rational design and directed evolution. Designing a human being from a scratch, is, however, a different matter. We would first need to have the capability of designing biological life. Yet, here, too, we are making strides. It will only be a short time before we can engineer biological life (and we have already designed artifacts that would fit the definition of "life"). Edited by Genomicus, : No reason given.
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1526 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 22 of 26 (692684)
03-06-2013 1:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 20 by ringo
03-06-2013 11:28 AM
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I fear I have regressed to the latter model. 
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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CoolBeans
Member (Idle past 3637 days) Posts: 196 From: Honduras Joined: 02-11-2013
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Message 23 of 26 (692722)
03-06-2013 8:09 PM
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How about making one being able to resist conditions outside the earth.
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009 Member Rating: 6.5
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Message 24 of 26 (692846)
03-07-2013 9:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 23 by CoolBeans
03-06-2013 8:09 PM
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Coolbeans asks:
How about making one being able to resist conditions outside the earth. The tardigrade! See the pic here: APOD: 2013 March 6 - Tardigrade in Moss
- xongsmith, 5.7d
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CoolBeans
Member (Idle past 3637 days) Posts: 196 From: Honduras Joined: 02-11-2013
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Message 25 of 26 (692854)
03-07-2013 11:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 24 by xongsmith
03-07-2013 9:56 PM
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That thing looks weird.
Arrrrrrrghhhhhh! Edited by CoolBeans, : No reason given.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 26 of 26 (692990)
03-09-2013 8:47 AM
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How about improved disease resistance - sod the common cold and toothache. I'd also like a button to turn off pain when required please.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
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