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Cuss the cat all you like, Inadequate. It's free for all, remember. You've been always welcome to insult the moggy as much as you love anyway. He does not care for censorship. To censor an opponent in any way, shape or form is to admit defeat. You lot already handed it to the cat here. Now you can spew the usual nonsense about the Universe the size of a tennis ball without the fear of being rationally challenged by the feline.Say whatever you like to say. Just an occasional attempt to reason in your crypto-creo defence accompanying the ad hominids would be welcome too.
That is not what you are famous for in the cat's book though. That's why you hesitate between the wish to insult and the desire to squeal for moderators' help.

This is Maddenstein's playpen. The rules are posted at the door.

Who says a singularity is simple? After all, it "contains" all of the complexity of reality.You seem to be setting up a simplistic strawman that you can tear to pieces and replace with your own even more simplistic ideas.

You can say that the Earth is stationary and that the Sun orbits around it. Saying stuff DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. People once claimed the heliocentrism was ludicrous. In the words of Galileo, "And yet it moves". You need to learn the concept summarized by the phrase, "the map is not the territory". You are going to need to supply evidence for this. Where is your evidence that space is not expanding.Also, where is your explanation for why the light from distant galaxies is redshifted? Why not a square, or an octagon?

Or why not "nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day TIMECUBE!"

Exactly, silly Tacky. Repeating idiotic stuff cannot make it into anything reasonable. The Universe cannot possibly expand for the same reasons the Earth can possibly rotate and orbit. There is outside room to the celestial object called the Earth and that is exactly what enables such motions of the planet. The Earth is an object with a surface and an outside so it is blessed with those degrees of freedom. Both the surface and an outside are the necessary conditions of its rotation and orbiting of the Sun. Moreover, the Earth unlike the Universe could have possibly expanded or exploded too, for the very same reasons.Whereas the Universe is not such an object surrounded with an outside and therefore it is not capable of the kind of uniform outward motion of its surface that is called an expansion. Now if a trillion of monkeys may repeat for a trillion of years that in spite of all that the Universe can still somehow expand according to their theories and "evidence" they collected to persuade other apes of the veracity of those theories, none of the simian effort may change anything. All their apish talk cannot make what is physically impossible and not conceivable without contradictions into anything possible. Their collective endeavour cannot turn the Universe into an object with a surface. The contribution from the silly Tacky adding his honest drop of poo to the ocean of the quackademic crap is no great help either. The physics of it cannot change. What is not an object or a system with a surface or border surrounded by a greater than itself volume cannot be said to expand. That is final. Face it. No two ways about it, my crypto-creo friends.Edited by Alfred Maddenstein, : No reason given.

Macca, what exactly is that singularity you are talking about? You say it contains all the complexity of the universe to be? Now the description offered by the quacks you parrot mentions zero as the volume of the putative entity. Whereas any container implies a volume greater than zero by definition. Contradiction. Zero volume may contain nothing exactly, let alone the complexities you are running at your mouth about.
Now, mouse, either you start talking rationally, ie, remove the contradictions from your presentation or the cat will again have to rub your nose into the nonsense you are vomiting.

You are a fucking halfwit.

Inadequate, you need to sue your mother urgently being that dense. She gave you a black hole singularity for brains.
One side represents the maximum possible distance per reference unit. The other the minimum possible interval it takes to cover that distance. Interval is a length so is a distance too.
The third side is the mix of the two so the ratio to both and since that is assumed to a constant it is the only possible conversion factor between the two other lengths. It is the reference unit. It is the ratio of space to time. How much space is contained in an arbitrary time interval is derived through it. No exceptions. Therefore when the quacks say that the Universe got 46 billion light years radius in 13.7 billion years they are crapping at their mouths and are heading for the trash bin patiently waiting for the bullshitters .

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Where is your support for any of these claims? It can not be made up on the spot either, which is exactly what you are doing.

I'll add triangles and my mother to the list of things you don't know about.Just out of curiosity, is there anything you do know about?

Hi Alfred, In Message 24 I said:

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In fact everyone here that I have engaged except cavediver has held to some sort of creationism. They do not believe in the YEC version but they do believe in creationism as they believe in the BBT.

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To have the BBT that begins from a point that has no place to exist one has to believe in creationism, of some sort.

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I personally believe from studying the scriptures that the universe and earth have always existed in some form just not in the form we observe it today.

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Apology accepted.God BlessEdited by ICANT, : No reason given.

Inadequate, don't be shy and please enlighten the ignorant cat and the public about triangles and stuff.

That is a lot of chutzpah you are demonstrating here, Tacky. Remember, it is you lot who are making all the positive tall claims. You say that the Universe expands not me. You need to support that logically. You say the Universe was not and then it was. That again is for you to support not me.
Such bigbangist gall. Unbelievable. The dude ain't got a single leg to stand on and he pretends to be a champion runner and he crawls around demanding everybody proves to the moron they have legs.Edited by Alfred Maddenstein, : No reason given.