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jar
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Message 3 of 20 (677738)
11-01-2012 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
11-01-2012 9:39 AM


I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
but it may force some changes that have been needed but never implemented. Unfortunately, the cost of retrofitting upgrades is often prohibited not just by cost but also by convenience. It's easier and cheaper to simply replace overhead power lines than to place them underground.
What NYC will see is that some taxis will be newer and really that's about it.
But your second question "What is the proper role of government in a disaster?" and that I think is important.
"The Government" whether State, Local or Federal is simply a clearinghouse and proxy for each of us. It is in reality nothing but an agent of each individual citizen and the proper question is not whether the "Government" should do anything but rather whether I as a Texan should help those living in NYC, NJ, MD, VA, IN, ...
Would I want the rest of my fellow citizens to help if my neighborhood was struck by flood or tornado or hurricane?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 5 of 20 (677747)
11-01-2012 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by onifre
11-01-2012 10:30 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
Right now as a Texan first.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 9 of 20 (677756)
11-01-2012 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by onifre
11-01-2012 10:46 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
Because right now I am living in Texas. I have also been a Virginian, a Marylander, a Arizonian, a Californian, a North and South Carolinian, a Georgian ...

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 11 of 20 (677762)
11-01-2012 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by onifre
11-01-2012 10:57 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
Too funny. Have you ever thought to trying comedy?
Did you actually read the posts where I said I was a Texan or where I listed other designations I have applied to my identity in the past?
quote:
but it may force some changes that have been needed but never implemented. Unfortunately, the cost of retrofitting upgrades is often prohibited not just by cost but also by convenience. It's easier and cheaper to simply replace overhead power lines than to place them underground.
What NYC will see is that some taxis will be newer and really that's about it.
But your second question "What is the proper role of government in a disaster?" and that I think is important.
"The Government" whether State, Local or Federal is simply a clearinghouse and proxy for each of us. It is in reality nothing but an agent of each individual citizen and the proper question is not whether the "Government" should do anything but rather whether I as a Texan should help those living in NYC, NJ, MD, VA, IN, ...
Would I want the rest of my fellow citizens to help if my neighborhood was struck by flood or tornado or hurricane?


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 14 of 20 (677770)
11-01-2012 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by NoNukes
11-01-2012 11:12 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
It is not a matter of allegiance but rather an identification of where I live at the time. As I said in Message 9, "I have also been a Virginian, a Marylander, a Arizonian, a Californian, a North and South Carolinian, a Georgian ..."
I also lived in PA and for relatively short periods in other states. The point was that government is simply an agent for all of us and even though Texas was not involved in this disaster I can use my agent, the government, to provide aid to those NOT in Texas.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 15 of 20 (677771)
11-01-2012 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by onifre
11-01-2012 11:14 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
Note the qualifier "right now" in my reply to you found in Message 9.
The reason to mention that I am a Texan was to point out that I was NOT speaking in this case as someone who needed the help, rather as someone outside.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 17 of 20 (677784)
11-01-2012 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by onifre
11-01-2012 11:58 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
Taxes are good and in the US we certainly do not tax like we should. The problem is again a matter of education. The US sucks when it comes to actually educating people.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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