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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nonsense.
Murder is NEVER justified.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Try actually reading what is written.
Murder by definition is never justified. Sorry but that's the definition.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nonsense.
I am saying that "war" is something that can only be done by a Nation State. I'm saying that "murder" by definition is an unjustified killing. No individual ever has the right to kill another except when that person presents a direct and immediate personal threat. Sorry but them's simply the facts.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You are, of course, welcome to your beliefs.
But an organization must be one that is recognized, has a form and a government. Sorry but them's the facts.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
To have a war there must be some way to end the war and unless there is a recognized government there is simply no way to end a war.
Sorry but them's the facts.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I provided the facts.
And I don't play children's games.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I don’t believe 9/11 was justified. Nor do I think present US activities are justified. But whatever conclusion you or I might come to about which activities are militarily justified and which aren’t there is no justification for imposing a raft of definitions that result in the rather ridiculous notion of a one-sided-war where only one side can ever be justified in it’s actions by definition. That is just self-serving-definitional-silliness. But I don't think anyone is saying anything about justification. I think you may be conflating killing and murder, what may be legal and what is always illegal.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I see no justification in that at all.
Sorry but no where in those quotes did I justify anything. No where have I discussed justification.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, I did not say war is justified.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But they are not at war.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A non state organization cannot conduct a war.
Murder is always unjustified.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, by act.
Sorry but there is reality. An individual might be able to justify killing someone else but only when the person is a direct and immediate threat. The terrorists acts do not meet that test.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
NO, stop misrepresenting my position.
Read what I wrote and try again.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Drone attacks are carried out by a military acting under governmental orders, and so they are an act of war.
AbE: Let me try to help you. A drone attack carried out by a non-governmental agency though would be terrorism. Edited by jar, : see AbE:Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Learn to read.
I'm amazed how so many people seem unable to actually read. I said:
quote: Read what I wrote. Let me try again. No individual ever has the right to kill another except when that person presents a direct and immediate personal threat. Killing and murder are not synonymous. You ask "Did the slaves in Ancient Rome have the right to kill their masters? Free other slaves and killing slave owners that weren't their masters?" The answer is perhaps yes, perhaps no. It would depend on the actual specifics of each incident. You ask "Did the Resistance in uccopied Europe has the right to kill German soldiers?" The answer is they had the right only if the Allies actually won the war. You ask "What about the Spanish civil war, where the regular army rose against the elected goverment,and the civilians defended that goverment?" The answer is that it depends on who won the Civil war. It is NEVER black and white.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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