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ringo
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Message 32 of 39 (673577)
09-20-2012 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by caffeine
09-20-2012 5:17 AM


Re: Contextualising the bump
caffeine writes:
From the conservative viewpoint, the justification is quite simple. Jesus' words about giving away wealth and helping the poor are an exhortation to personal charity, but don't justify using the power of the state to enforce such behaviour.
I wouldn't even disagree with that. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason the state needs to help the poor is because Christians have failed to do it.
But what I find ironic is that they don't even need to mangle Mark 10. "A rich man can't get into heaven," could easily be interpreted as, "You can't take it with you." It doesn't necessarily mean that Donald Trump can't get to heaven but if he does he'll be living next door to the homeless guy who froze to death in the alley behind Trump Towers. It could just mean that everybody is equal in heaven - but maybe they don't like that idea either.

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ringo
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Message 34 of 39 (673600)
09-20-2012 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by NoNukes
09-20-2012 1:47 PM


Re: Contextualising the bump
NoNukes writes:
I've read this passage several times today, and I have to say that I find your reading quite a stretch.
I think the point of the story is that you're going to lose it anyway so you might as well make good use of it here on earth - good use meaning giving to the poor. It echoes the story of the woman who gave two mites while the rich men gave bags and bags of gold. "Enough" is relative so it's better to be liberal.
Edited by ringo, : Spling.

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