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Author Topic:   Does ID predict genetic similarity?
herebedragons
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Message 163 of 167 (672065)
09-02-2012 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Straggler
08-24-2012 6:31 PM


Re: universal principles
Are you suggesting that whatever science is at any point unable to explain demands a supernatural explanation.....
No. I am suggesting that:
1. I have a philosophical ideology that accepts that there is a higher power that is responsible for the existence of all that exists.
2. I have been unable to convert that philosophical ideology into a viable scientific hypothesis.
3. If anyone else has been able to do this, I would like to know how they did it and what those hypotheses are.
4. Assertions that no such supernatural entities can exist is not a logic assumption. Therefore, I am justified in asking questions 1,2 and 3.
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for. But until the end of the present exile has come and terminated this our imperfection by which "we know in part," I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

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herebedragons
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Message 164 of 167 (672066)
09-02-2012 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by Percy
09-02-2012 4:14 PM


Is this discontinuity related to genetic similarity, or am I drifting off topic by exploring this further?
Maybe discussion on the specifics of front-loading would be better off at Deep Homology and Front-loading, but I think the issue of discontinuities is worthwhile to explore.
I would think that any ID hypothesis would necessitate a discontinuity. Genomicus stated that:
quote:
the presence of a discontinuity in the biological universe is one hallmark of intelligent design,
He stopped short of saying that an ID hypothesis predicts discontinuities, but if an intelligent designer intervened in any way at some point, wouldn't that result in a discontinuity of some kind? In fact, an ID hypothesis without a recognizable discontinuity would be rather pointless, for sure.
I know you are not an ID proponent, but since you are "not an atheist", I figured you at least acknowledge the possibility of an intelligent designer.
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for. But until the end of the present exile has come and terminated this our imperfection by which "we know in part," I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

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