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Author | Topic: German judge rules child circumcision as child abuse. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
bluegenes Member (Idle past 2499 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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Jon writes: This thread has to do with why certain members of society over-obsess on matters of sexuality and feel a right to make everyone else's sexuality their priority. Exactly what the paper points out. That there have been very vocal advocates for cutting bits off other people's sexual organs under a whole variety of pretenses throughout the last two centuries.
Jon writes: This thread is about people who are, quite frankly, too damn hung upand creepily soon what happens with the penises of other people's children. So's the article. It's about people who are, quite frankly, so hung up - and creepily so - on what happens with the penises of other people's children that they want to cut bits off all of them.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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What is wrong with "Culture" as a justification of "circumcision"?
If your culture thinks it is "mutilation" then simply do not circumcise your children. But if another culture believes circumcision is not mutilation and that it should be done, then why should YOUR culture take precedence?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2499 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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jar writes: What is wrong with "Culture" as a justification of "circumcision"? If your culture thinks it is "mutilation" then simply do not circumcise your children. But if another culture believes circumcision is not mutilation and that it should be done, then why should YOUR culture take precedence? Anything that's ever been done in any part of the world could be justified on that basis. Infanticide probably still goes on in some cultures. I could hang, draw and quarter people on the basis of English historical precedence. We have groups of African migrants in Europe for whom female circumcision is traditional. Our modern culture overrides that, and they are not allowed to follow that tradition. So, in the O.P., what should the German courts consider? Modern German culture, or Middle-Eastern traditions? And if some refugees from Afghanistan arrive in America, and decide that one of their number should be stoned to death for adultery, will you be arguing for laws to be changed in order to accommodate their culture? And how can newborn babies have culture, let alone believe that circumcision is part of it?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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But we are not talking about everything, rather about circumcision.
Nothing else is even relevant.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2499 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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jar writes: But we are not talking about everything, rather about circumcision. Nothing else is even relevant. Ah. Including culture?
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Jon Inactive Member |
That there have been very vocal advocates for cutting bits off other people's sexual organs under a whole variety of pretenses throughout the last two centuries. And they're not the topic. Nor do the last two centuries have anything to do with what is right today.
It's about people who are, quite frankly, so hung up - and creepily so - on what happens with the penises of other people's children that they want to cut bits off all of them. And this thread's not about those people. Try to be relevant. Edited by Jon, : No reason given.Love your enemies!
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Ah, another sophomore it seems.
No, culture is relevant. Behaviors were what were being discussed, specifically circumcision.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2499 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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Jon writes: And they're not the topic. Circumcisors and the circumcision lobby are definitely on topic.
Jon writes: And this thread's not about those people. If the people who want to cut bits off other people's genitals didn't exist, the thread wouldn't exist.
Jon writes: Try to be relevant. Try to learn what relevant means.
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Jazzns Member (Idle past 3933 days) Posts: 2657 From: A Better America Joined:
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You have yet to refute the cited benefits of circumcision. I haven't seen anyone provide any benefits of circumcision other than oni who cited the anecdote of the increased frequency of blowjobs. The medical associations tasked with providing guidance as to the benefits of circumcision have trouble finding these mysterious benefits also. Maybe you could inform us and them so we can all be on the same page.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
I see, my last few message pertinent points have not been responded to; must be nobody has a valid responses, or what?
Edited by Buzsaw, : change "the" to "my"BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." |
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Jazzns Member (Idle past 3933 days) Posts: 2657 From: A Better America Joined:
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This thread is about people who are, quite frankly, too damn hung upand creepily soon what happens with the penises of other people's children. You are absolutely full of shit Jon! We would be equally as incensed by any kind of ritual mutilation regardless of body part. Your insistence on attributing sick motive to other people totally reveals just how BADLY lacking your arguments are. In this thread, you have consistently chosen bad reasoning and ad-hominem over honest debate.
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Jazzns Member (Idle past 3933 days) Posts: 2657 From: A Better America Joined:
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It needs to be removed for the obvious reason that the parents told the doctor to remove it. Just like the clitoris right? You okay with that? I have asked multiple times now. What about if a parent doesn't like how the dice rolled and wants to do FULL gender re-assignment? You okay with that? Do parents have NO limitations on what unnecessary surgery they can do to their child?
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2499 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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jar writes:
No, culture is relevant. Well, make up your mind.
jar writes: Behaviors were what were being discussed, specifically circumcision. Yes. And what is your point? If culture is not a justification for any behaviour, then how would mentioning it on its own argue for the justification of a specific behaviour?
jar writes: Ah, another sophomore it seems. Is that sad attempt at an insult because I questioned your statement that nothing other than circumcision was relevant when you'd clearly just brought up something other than circumcision? Edited by bluegenes, : missing word
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Circumcision is the topic, but maybe you had not noticed.
Each specific behavior should be judged within the context of the specific State, culture or society. There was no attempt at insult.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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onifre Member (Idle past 2972 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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I haven't seen anyone provide any benefits of circumcision other than oni who cited the anecdote of the increased frequency of blowjobs. Who needs another benefit after that one? The. Ladies. Love. It - end of discussion. The medical association can take a hike on this one. - Oni
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