Can God love?

Can God love?We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity. You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you. See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?Have you seen God express his love for us lately?Regards
DLThese following speak to this issue if you wish to view them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMXoPhgTkuY&feature=playe...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4TnrskE0&feature=relatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP7SPJllNoc

You've posted this exact same OP on at least 5 other boards. We'll see how busy you are with those.AdminPd

You will note that no one is ignored.Regards
DL

Are you going to post this?Regards
DL

Thread copied here from the Can God love? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

Yes, I see it constantly.

If He exists, He can love. He's God, He can do anything.But Of course, he may not wish to.

"We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created."Is there a source for this? As I understand it, it appears Jesus chose to help redeem mankind and that because of this God the Father loved Him for His selfless generosity and compassion.John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.The Old Testament records many references to Jesus as the Avenging Angel, God the Son, who chose willingly to rescue helpless mankind, and decided by Himself to use His power for redemption.Isaiah 63:3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.Isaiah 59:16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.
18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

I'm sorry but nothing in Isaiah refers to Jesus. It is only by taking quotes totally out of context that you can even pretend it talks of Jesus.

Judaism has long recognized a number of Messianic Prophecies in Isaiah. They are labeled with stars on this chart:Account SuspendedJesus claimed to be the Messiah. Therefore if it can be proven He is the Messiah then hence the prophecies are of Jesus.

Many people claimed to be the Messiah, and some actually met the Jewish description of a Messiah, but Jesus does not.But that is still irrelevant.The question is whether or not Isaiah was referring to Jesus and if you read Isaiah in context it is speaking of someone that will be there during the lifetime of Azah, not someone hundreds of years later.

The book of Daniel we know to have existed before the time of Jesus thanks to the Dead Sea Scrolls. It was around centuries before Jesus and thus prophecies about Jesus are valid. It predicted the exact day that Jesus the Messiah would come, invalidating any possibility of an earlier person like Azah:

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Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

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From the start of Jerusalem's wall being built (the date is given in Nehemiah 2 according to the Persian calendar and has been verified by archaeology as 444/445 B.C.), there were to be 69 weeks of years, or 483 years. The Jewish year is 360 days so by our reckoning it would be 476.3836 years after the rebuilding of Jerusalem's wall, or about 31 A.D.The Scofield Reference Bible 1917 edition made note of this prophecy. It's been known about for quite some time:http://sco.biblecommenter.com/daniel/9.htm
http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks6.htmI'm not sure what other person could claim to be the Messiah and have come at 31/32 A.D. The Messiah was supposed to come right then, not sooner, not later.

Still trying the Gish Gallop, misrepresentation and taking quotes from the Bible out of context I see as well as being totally irrelevant to the topic.If you would like to try to defend your assertion that there are any Old Testament prophecies that refer to Jesus you can give it a try in the thread Are any of these prophecies fulfilled by Jesus? but read through it first before posting ones that have already been dealt with.