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Author Topic:   Are any of these prophecies fulfilled by Jesus?
jar
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Message 171 of 255 (662637)
05-17-2012 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by ScottyDouglas
05-17-2012 2:26 PM


Re: British Regal Throne
Nothing in any of that has anything to do with the fact that the British Monarchs are seated on King Edwards chair during the coronation.
Volumes have been written about Merlin and Tom Sawyer as well.

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Message 173 of 255 (662640)
05-17-2012 2:52 PM
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05-17-2012 2:35 PM


Re: Isaiah 7
It is immediate because it says it is immediate.
Did it happen before the child born during Azah's reign was old enough to know good from evil?
Note it is taking about the land that Azah abhors, their current enemy.
The question is whether or not ANY Old Testament prophecies refer to Jesus and so far the answer is "No!".
Since you haven't read Isaiah 7, here is all of it.
quote:
Isaiah 7
King James Version (KJV)
7 And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it, but could not prevail against it.
2 And it was told the house of David, saying, Syria is confederate with Ephraim. And his heart was moved, and the heart of his people, as the trees of the wood are moved with the wind.
3 Then said the Lord unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field;
4 And say unto him, Take heed, and be quiet; fear not, neither be fainthearted for the two tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with Syria, and of the son of Remaliah.
5 Because Syria, Ephraim, and the son of Remaliah, have taken evil counsel against thee, saying,
6 Let us go up against Judah, and vex it, and let us make a breach therein for us, and set a king in the midst of it, even the son of Tabeal:
7 Thus saith the Lord God, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass.
8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.
9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah's son. If ye will not believe, surely ye shall not be established.
10 Moreover the Lord spake again unto Ahaz, saying,
11 Ask thee a sign of the Lord thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.
12 But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the Lord.
13 And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.
16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
17 The Lord shall bring upon thee, and upon thy people, and upon thy father's house, days that have not come, from the day that Ephraim departed from Judah; even the king of Assyria.
18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall hiss for the fly that is in the uttermost part of the rivers of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria.
19 And they shall come, and shall rest all of them in the desolate valleys, and in the holes of the rocks, and upon all thorns, and upon all bushes.
20 In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a man shall nourish a young cow, and two sheep;
22 And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk that they shall give he shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall every one eat that is left in the land.
23 And it shall come to pass in that day, that every place shall be, where there were a thousand vines at a thousand silverlings, it shall even be for briers and thorns.
24 With arrows and with bows shall men come thither; because all the land shall become briers and thorns.
25 And on all hills that shall be digged with the mattock, there shall not come thither the fear of briers and thorns: but it shall be for the sending forth of oxen, and for the treading of lesser cattle.
NOTE that the virgin birth and subsequent events are a sign given to Azah, signs for HIM to see during his lifetime.
By the way, the prophecy did get fulfilled and during Azah's lifetime. Azah was king of Judah, and Israel was allied with Syria. Israel at the time was considered an apostate Nation. The two Kings mentioned are the Kings of Israel and of Syria (Damascus). Israel and Syria were attacking Judah and the fulfillment of the prophecy was when the Assyrians conquered both Nations.

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Message 193 of 255 (662786)
05-18-2012 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by ScottyDouglas
05-18-2012 5:08 PM


Off Topic Alert
Even though all mankind including you are still one of the Apes, that is totally irrelevant to this topic or thread.
If you think that there is an Old Testament prophecy that is fulfilled by Jesus that we have not already dealt with, please specify the Chapter and Verse and we will take a look at it.

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jar
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Message 199 of 255 (669697)
08-01-2012 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by broken180
08-01-2012 3:22 PM


Re: bottom line
double post
Edited by jar, : fumble fingers

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Message 200 of 255 (669699)
08-01-2012 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by broken180
08-01-2012 3:22 PM


Re: bottom line
Yeah, I've heard nonsense like what the person told you myself and my reaction is that the person most likely has never read the Bible.
Daniel 9:25 is covered in Message 13. As usual, what you were told is simply an example of "quote mining"; taking pieces parts out of context and of just plain misrepresentation. In particular, the part about "Jewish scholars had placed a curse on this verse to deter people from doing the math" is just plain hilarious.
One thing common throughout Jewish culture of the era was that they loved numerology and doing the math. In addition there was no need of any curse; if they were concerned about "people from doing the math" all they had to do was leave that part out.
AbE;
The eyeball glaze is most likely the result of not being taught initially what the Old Testament was and having folk tell you that it is one story with one purpose. It's not and never was meant to be one book or have a common purpose.
And welcome to EvC.
Edited by jar, : add welcome

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jar
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Message 206 of 255 (671364)
08-24-2012 2:17 PM
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08-24-2012 2:03 PM


Topic
Nothing in your post has anything to do with the topic.

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jar
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Message 208 of 255 (671378)
08-24-2012 5:25 PM
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08-24-2012 5:13 PM


Re: Topic
Fine, but it still has nothing to do with the topic.

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Message 211 of 255 (671385)
08-24-2012 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by Dr Adequate
08-24-2012 5:29 PM


Re: Topic
The issue is not whether or not Jesus is the Messiah or anything outside the specific Old Testament prophecies listed.
The question revolves around specific prophecies listed by ICDESIGN and where they were supposedly fulfilled in the New Testament according to ICDESIGN.

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Message 213 of 255 (671389)
08-24-2012 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by kofh2u
08-24-2012 6:29 PM


Re: Topic
The topic is "Are any of these prophecies fulfilled by Jesus?" and the OP lists those prophecies.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Following message 214 was spam and was deleted. - Adminnemooseus

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