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Buzsaw Inactive Member
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Tanypteryx writes: You are a funny guy, Buz. We all know you would be madder than hell if the strengths and weaknesses of creationism were taught. There are no strengths to be found in creationism.....NOT ONE! Not at all. I do as much or more critiquing of mainline creationists relative to origins as evolutionists do. That's why my unique Biblical record take on origins, etc do more to kick butt on evolution and the BB, etc than that of creationists educated in the colleges and seminaries etc are more effective in the science fora etc than theirs. There's is more refutable than mine, yet they are the only ones allowed to debate the science threads and some Bible related threads in the science forum. Most educated creationists have been spoon fed for a few years in colleges and universities whereas I've been studiously in it for 60 plus years since my conversion as a youngster. That's why I'm not much more popular in Christian circles than I am here, because I call them out on stuff they've been brainwashed into. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Gotta give it to Buz on this one - whatever you think about his position, he's not just toeing the party line.
Well, as far as creationism goes, anyway. He's really staked out his own position.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
crashfrog writes: Well, as far as creationism goes, anyway. He's really staked out his own position. Yeah, he does have his own take on creationism, but he still has one thing in common with most of the rest. A lot of what he writes is incoherent and does not make any sense at all.
Buz for example writes: That's why my unique Biblical record take on origins, etc do more to kick butt on evolution and the BB, etc than that of creationists educated in the colleges and seminaries etc are more effective in the science fora etc than theirs. And on top of that he's completely delusional. He still claims he kicks evolutionist butts. It's pathetic.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
Buz writes: That's why my unique Biblical record take on origins, etc do more to kick butt on evolution and the BB, etc than that of creationists educated in the colleges and seminaries etc are more effective in the science fora etc than theirs. Buz, have you ever read one of your own sentences out loud? Try it with that one......do you really think that sounds like it makes sense? And give me a break, you have never kicked an evolutionist's or physicist's butt. NEVER, NOT ONCE!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
As I wrote on 11 Apr 2012 (nine minutes into that day, so by "tonight" I meant on 10 Apr):
KCRW (a Santa Monica, CA, affiliate of NPR) carried a program tonight interviewing several people, including the former state senator who had authored the bill, but so far it is not up on their site: http://www.kcrw.com/news/programs/ww
While the "big" story that night was about baseball, the audio does include the section on the Tennessee law. Go to http://www.kcrw.com/...grams/ww/ww120410looking_back_as_dodg. Right under the main topic title, "Looking Back as Dodger Stadium Celebrates Its Jubilee", and to the left you will see a blue rectangular button that says Listen. Click on that and you can listen to the program. Be patient and about one minute into the program they will finally mention the Tennessee law. The bill ... er, law, purports to defend a teacher from repercussions for presenting negative evidence of certain scientific ideas. The bill ... er, law, only specifies science classes to be subject to this law, not other classes. The law specifically targets evolution, climate change, and human cloning. The sponsor of the bill, the aforementioned former state senator, works for a very specifically religious organization. Furthermore, the only "negative evidence of said scientific ideas" can be found amongst creationists and IDists. And a scientist and wife of a high school science teacher interviewed on the afore-linked-to NPR program, "Which Way, LA?", pointed out that teachers have always been allowed to present opposing scientific ideas into their classrooms, so that law is totally unnecessary. The only purpose that the law could possibly serve would be to allow teachers to bring in religious creationist materials. Share and enjoy!
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
I just visited NCSE to see if any new news on the Tennessee law had been posted. Instead, there are reports from Oklahoma and Louisiana.
From Oklahoma, we have Antiscience effort falters in Oklahoma(my emphasis added): quote:Since the legislature will remain in session until 25 May, Russell will undoubtedly attempt to add his amendment to other unrelated bills. From Louisiana we have Repeal effort fails in Louisiana(again, my emphasis added): quote: And now again the quote from my Message 1 at the start of this topic (again, my emphasis added):
quote:The same weasel wording keeps showing up in these anti-evolution bills. They are obviously all singing from the same sheet music. As has been happening for the past three decades, these bills are no isolated cases, but rather are part of a larger anti-evolution movement whose tradition, tactics, and arguments go back to circa 1920. |
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