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Author Topic:   "If I descended from an ape, how come apes are still here?"
RAZD
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Message 254 of 286 (657378)
03-27-2012 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by Big_Al35
03-27-2012 4:13 PM


Re: Let's talk about Al
Hi Big_Al35
... Issues such as the effects of weathering, diet change, environmental factors, and medicine seem to be completely ignored. ...
Curiously, diet change and environmental factors are what drive evolutionary changes over many generations, but these changes are slow.
Weathering could account for erosion of bones in various areas, but it doesn't rebuild bone inside what is worn away, and this is why some teeth look longer than others, but this does not change the overall dimensions of the teeth.
And medicine cannot alter skulls in a way that.
... I am not even convinced by your dating arguments. ...
Then let's discuss age dating methods.
We can start with Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
And when you work your way all the way through the correlations, then we can get back to this.
Enjoy.

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Message 277 of 286 (660767)
04-29-2012 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by William Rea
04-29-2012 3:54 AM


Hi William Rea, and welcome to the fray.
The best set of assumptions I have heard from someone else are...
1. The universe exists.
2. You can learn something about reality.
3. Models with predictive capability are better than models without predictive capability.
I would say
1. The universe exists.
2. Objective evidence gives us valid information about reality.
3 does not need to be assumed as it can be demonstrated.
The problem with the philosophy of science is that people confuse it with actual science.
Indeed. Logic alone is not science, as science relies on testing and on objective evidence.
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