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Percy
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Message 541 of 683 (658935)
04-11-2012 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 539 by dwise1
04-11-2012 1:54 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
dwise1 writes:
I'm also a programmer and we can have an error in our own program that we cannot see, but as soon as someone else looks at it the error jumps right out at them. It's the same with proofreading ourselves. The only technique I have found to be at all effective is to read what we wrote out loud, word for word, even if it's still only inside our head.
If you set the code aside for a month or two (which happens not infrequently because of short-term emergencies) then the errors stand out later.
--Percy

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Message 542 of 683 (658954)
04-11-2012 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 532 by jar
04-10-2012 10:58 AM


A moderator editing spelling or changing formatting on his or her own is inexcusable.
In Message 55, Moose corrected an error where I referred to the "Reply to" part as being in the top-left when it was supposed to be the top-right.
I thought that was cool.

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dwise1
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Message 543 of 683 (658963)
04-11-2012 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 541 by Percy
04-11-2012 9:17 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
Aye (upon pain of suspension). Because you have to actually read it. But deadlines do not always accommodate that method.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 544 of 683 (659531)
04-16-2012 1:43 PM


OpticalIllusions
I think that new member OpticalIllusions is just a prank, a "Poe", a troll. I don't think that he sincerely believes what he's saying.
I have two reasons for thinking so. One is the sheer stupidity of his posts, eclipsing the usual stupidity of creationists. The second I will communicate by PM to the moderators at their request, because I don't want to broadcast to all trolls how to look unlike a troll.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 545 of 683 (660088)
04-20-2012 8:28 PM


I'm ok with AdminPD saying that my discussion with PaulK is off topic. My point was that in order to make a case for the OT messianic prophesies you first have to understand Jesus in His messianic context of the NT in order to be able to make a case for OT prophesy.
In addition, the title is "Scriptural Evidence that Jesus is Messiah" which sounds like we should be able to include NT evidence.
However, as I say it's no problem and I will desist.
Thanks PD for taking on the rather thankless task that you have.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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Message 546 of 683 (660554)
04-27-2012 1:20 AM


Spammer
Spammer
Message 190

PaulK
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Message 547 of 683 (660557)
04-27-2012 1:20 AM


Spammer
qaz111 is a link spammer e.g. Message 157

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Message 548 of 683 (660569)
04-27-2012 7:00 AM
Reply to: Message 547 by PaulK
04-27-2012 1:20 AM


Re: Spammer
Got him, thanks!

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Chuck77
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Message 549 of 683 (660655)
04-28-2012 5:26 AM


I was wondering is this can be addressed: Message 164
I was under the impression that one line insults didn't constitute debate, which in fact that is what the purpose of this site is for, to debate.
If I have insulted anyone in that thread like the way I am being insulted whatever penalty is given out to the members doing it to me i'll accept the same.
I wonder why expressing our Creationist views here is always mocked, insulted and laughed at instead of addressed. It difficult to express ourselves here while always being under siege.
Modulous post (the one I responded to) is a good example of the way to debate. I would probably be much more active here if I didn't have to put up with the rest of the insults.
It's really gotten to the point where it's not worth debating here anymore. Almost all the Creationists leave, no one sticks around, because of the constant bullying and insulting and mocking.
Thanks.
Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 550 of 683 (660657)
04-28-2012 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 549 by Chuck77
04-28-2012 5:26 AM


That is not an insult. It merely raises, again, a point I have already made in that thread --- that the the home-brewed epistemology with which creationists want to defend themselves from evidence of past events would be laughed out of court if a defense attorney tried to use it to defend a client from evidence of past events.
When I wish to insult you, you will know about it.

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Chuck77
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Message 551 of 683 (660663)
04-28-2012 7:09 AM


Can this also be addressed? Message 166
PaulK quotes my message from this thread on that thread, why?
Paulk writes:
Taken from Message 549 for discussion.
He brought my previous comment from here over into that thread discussion.
What is going on here?

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Message 552 of 683 (660664)
04-28-2012 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 551 by Chuck77
04-28-2012 7:09 AM


Chauck77 writes:
He brought my previous comment from here over into that thread discussion.
What is going on here?
We aren't meant to discuss things in this thread.
*cough* oops *cough*
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Message 553 of 683 (660679)
04-28-2012 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 551 by Chuck77
04-28-2012 7:09 AM


Hi Chuck,
I wish I could help you, I really do, but Dr Adequate and PaulK do not seem to be violating the Forum Guidelines. It's one thing to use ridicule as a substitute for debate, it's quite another to call attention to the ludicrous elements of a position.
I confess I share the same wonderment as Dr Adequate, not as an evolutionist but just as a normal thinking person. My role as moderator does not call for me to suspend my powers of thought - in fact, it requires them of me, because EvC Forum like to pride itself on requiring rational discussion.
So one thing I know for sure is that things that happen leave evidence behind. Many things can be established without eyewitnesses having been present, a principle that creationists understand and apply as readily as everyone else, except perhaps when it comes to evolution.
Now I understand that for a creationist evolution seems an incredible claim, and most of us would probably agree that incredible claims require incredible evidence, but demanding eyewitnesses? Seriously?
I'm sure this message feels unfair to you. All I can offer is an opportunity to discuss the need for eyewitnesses in a thread in the Is It Science? forum. If you propose a topic over at Proposed New Topics I'll give it some attention as quickly as I can.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Coyote
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Message 554 of 683 (661324)
05-04-2012 1:24 PM


This site used to be...
This site used to be about the creation v. evolution debate.
The Coffee House and Free for All have taken over, and now about 90-95% of the posts are on other topics, particularly politics.
I think it is time to either dump those two forums or change the name of the site, as it is becoming just another political debate site.
And those are a dime a dozen (overpriced at that).

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Message 555 of 683 (661325)
05-04-2012 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 554 by Coyote
05-04-2012 1:24 PM


Re: This site used to be...
Much as I do enjoy the political and ethical debates from time to time...it would be nice to return to a focus on Creationism vs Evolution or even just science vs religion in general.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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