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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4457 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
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AdminPhat Inactive Member |
Subbie and Artemis, lets nip this one in the bud.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3941 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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AE writes:
You seem determined to prove Subbie correct - laudable, but self-defeating. Is it so hard to stay on topic? yet another post of you talking shit. LOL@U You have been pwned by your own trolling.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4457 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined:
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Erm, in light of the 10th Amendment I'd have to disagree. Or would you prefer a Federal State of America as opposed to just a bunch of united ones? shhhh this is a NO STATES RIGHTS message board, they'll get all over your ass for that kind of talk in these parts.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9488 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1
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And now you are going to respond to a 2 year old post to try to make some sort of point?
Not sure what the point you are trying to make is. Cryptic words actually mean nothing. Wow the smell of desperation reeks. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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OpticalIllusions Junior Member (Idle past 4593 days) Posts: 9 Joined:
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America and the founding fathers may not be "Christian" but we put "in God we trust" on the money for a reason. The founding fathers never said they wanted everyone to be atheist, just that they could worthship their own personal God. Notice how it doesn't say "in Gods we trust". None of the founding fathers believed in old disproven pagan Gods.
Of course I believe people should be allowed to be atheist, or pagan (just because quantum physics proves ther is a God doesn't mean people should be forced to believe in Him). I just don't think America is an atheist or pagan country just because some people are that way. That would be like saying we are a racist country just because some people are racist. America is a democracy, and if we all voted, I think we would be overall christian and overall not racist.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1030 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
America and the founding fathers may not be "Christian" but we put "in God we trust" on the money for a reason. Really? Do you really think that the founding fathers put "in god we trust" on the money? Wrong answer. The national motto, my disillusioned, misguided friend, is "e pluribus unum" which means "Out of many, one". Go ahead, look it up. You've got time. In god we trust was put there in the 1950's due to the red scare. Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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OpticalIllusions Junior Member (Idle past 4593 days) Posts: 9 Joined:
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I know the founding fathers didn't put it on the money, that's a strawman arguement. I meant "we" as in "the country as it is now". If I meant the founding fathers I would have said "they".
The fact remains that is *IS* there on our money and if God didn't exist then our money would be worthless because trust is the foundation of an IOU, which is what money basically is. Obviously America is christian enough for the money system to work.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1030 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
that's a strawman arguement. Um, no, it's not. You tied the founding fathers into your comment about having "in god we trust" on our currency. What does one have to do with the other? Nothing.
The fact remains that is *IS* there on our money and if God didn't exist then our money would be worthless because trust is the foundation of an IOU, which is what money basically is. Obviously America is christian enough for the money system to work. I am not even sure how to respond to that. It has got to be one of the silliest arguments I have ever encountered. The US dollar is not based on any deity. By your standard, the British Pound is based on the reality of evolution since it has Darwin on it."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But you are one of the most interesting Poes yet.
Congratulations.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Taq Member Posts: 10279 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
I know the founding fathers didn't put it on the money, that's a strawman arguement. I meant "we" as in "the country as it is now". If I meant the founding fathers I would have said "they". The fact remains that is *IS* there on our money and if God didn't exist then our money would be worthless because trust is the foundation of an IOU, which is what money basically is. Obviously America is christian enough for the money system to work. Wow. If this is an insight into the economic views of conservatives then this is REALLY scary. I guess they never heard of credit ratings? Or what really backs a currency (hint: it isn't a magical guy in the sky)?
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I agree with jar. This is just a wind-up, a "Poe". The same poster has sprinkled stupid all over many moribund threads, and no-one is as stupid as he pretends to be. Even Dawn Bertot isn't that stupid. Cold Foreign Object wasn't that stupid. No-one is that stupid. It's just a troll trying to wind us up. Look at his posting history to check. No-one can be as stupid as he is pretending to be.
Though he must be fairly stupid, because you have to be quite fucking stupid for your hobby to be pretending to be completely stupid. So yes, he is a moron. But he is not sincere.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1633 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi once again OpticalIllusions,
Message 126: America and the founding fathers may not be "Christian" but we put "in God we trust" on the money for a reason. ... And when we look at the time that it was sneaked into being on the money, the way it was implemented, and why those that put it there did it, we see that it was over-reactive knee bending fear of "communism" that was the impetus.
... The founding fathers never said they wanted everyone to be atheist, just that they could worthship their own personal God. ... Correction: that anyone could believe what they wanted when it came to religion, and have the right to do so without persecution.
... Notice how it doesn't say "in Gods we trust". None of the founding fathers believed in old disproven pagan Gods. See above for who when and why. The who when and why had nothing to do with the founding fathers, but with weak-kneed politicians and bureaucrats. Many of the founding fathers were deists, where god is more of a generic term.
The fact remains that is *IS* there on our money ... Which is a testament to what weak-kneed, communist fearing ignorant people can do. Certainly it was not put there due to democratic consensus.
Obviously America is christian enough for the money system to work. Not obvious at all. The god in question could be Vishnu. What gives money value is the willingness of people to exchange goods for it. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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subbie Member (Idle past 1483 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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I don't know. I don't think he's said anything near as clueless as Buz, and Buz has been saying the same crap for years.
I grant you, there's reason to suspect. But the very fact that we have Buz and his ilk is the very reason it's quite impossible to tell for sure if someone is being sincere or just pulling your chain. After all, that is what Poe's law says.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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jrchamblee Junior Member (Idle past 4591 days) Posts: 14 Joined:
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George Washington got all his advice from a christian man, a friend of his.that concerned the USA back then.There are letters that prove this. So what does that say about George Washington?
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