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Message 9 of 87 (656860)
03-22-2012 3:50 PM
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03-21-2012 9:37 PM


Life Energy is the life force or living energy which, in nervous system, increases the rate of nervous vibrations.
Let's start here before we move on. What are these vibrations, and what is the mechanism of vibration?
Nerve fibers are not violin strings. Nerve impulses are caused by changes in membrane potential down the length of the nerve axon. When the nerve impulse reaches a synapse it causes the release of neurotransmitters that cause the same moving impulse in the next nerve cell. You can read all about it here. Nothing in the process looks like a "vibration", so I am really wondering what you are talking about.

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Message 18 of 87 (656940)
03-23-2012 11:50 AM
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03-22-2012 5:50 PM


Re: Trepidation does not occur for nothing but occasionally
The point being defined is not how nerve impulses are caused. Nerve impulse is just a consequence of the presence of life.
In other words, life energy is more than the natural property of being alive.
You still have not described what these vibrations are. Could you do that please? I would like to go through your opening post bit by bit so that it is all clear.
Would you like a clue on how the life energy is detected? Trepidation does not occur for nothing.
Trepidation [ evidence of that range of life energy and constant source of vibration ] occurs occasionally.
You still have not told us what these vibrations are. I think we need to start there.

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Message 21 of 87 (657153)
03-26-2012 11:26 AM
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03-26-2012 11:08 AM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Life Energy is the life force which, in nervous system, increases the rate of trepidations.
Every trepidation is a quivering and is the physical expression of life energy flowing in nervous system.
What are these trepidations, what are these quiverings, and how do trepidations cause them?

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Message 25 of 87 (657285)
03-27-2012 11:25 AM
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03-26-2012 5:54 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Perhaps what has often been found is a Panda that does not like the unusual . . .
Actually, it appears that a Panda does not like jibberish and woo. Stringing words together is not communication.

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Message 30 of 87 (657575)
03-29-2012 11:49 AM
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03-28-2012 5:57 PM


Re: Definitions Reloaded Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH
That is why bombs do explode; because the regular continuous time that is left for a fuel to be burned has terminated.
Bombs explode because they have acquired the energy needed to trigger a spontaneous reaction. This is similar to how nerves work. For example, the photoreceptors in your eyes produce an action potential when they absorbe energy in the form of photons.
There really is no need for using terms like trepidation or quivering. The actual mechanics of the nervous system are already well understood. I would suggest reading up on it and learning the terms instead of making up new terms.

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Message 32 of 87 (657655)
03-29-2012 6:14 PM
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03-29-2012 6:00 PM


Re: Definitions Reloaded Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH
This is what happens to a sequence of time when bombs made of fuel do explode: the regular continuous time that is left for a fuel to be consumed has terminated.
So the length of time it takes for a chemical reaction to occur is the length of time it takes for a chemical reaction to occur. Seems rather redundant.
In case of life energy, that continuous sequence is terminated in the moment that a different type of sequence, an immediate, one shows up.
Just as an explosion of hydrocarbons (e.g. gasoline) is terminated when oxygen is removed, such as with the introduction of carbon dioxide found in extinguishers.
In every case, life energy is no different than energy. They are one in the same. All of our nerve impulses are energy. It is no different than the energy in any any other physical or chemical reaction.
Day after day people can get no satisfaction with a regular and ordinary motion because the continous sequence is not enough. On the realm of one constant: Freedom; Choice; in moments of Desire and pleasure, people who can't get enough do know and choose the best: not an ordinary continuous sequence but an immediate one; by the quiverings of the life energy and trepidation with pleasure of desire through which one might go to heaven more often.
What is this quivering? What is quivering and how is it produced?

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Message 37 of 87 (657747)
03-30-2012 11:18 AM
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03-30-2012 8:30 AM


Re: Definitions Reloaded Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH
Why can't one see that the length of time it takes for a fuel to be consumed does change whenever the fuel is poured from a bottle to a wide and open surface ?
I can see that, and it has nothing to do with trepidations or quiverings. It has to do with contact between the fuel and the source of oxidation, namely the atmosphere. Of course the rate of a reaction depends on environmental conditions. That is Chem 101. You will also notice that burning goes even quicker if the fuel is atomized into tiny droplets. This, again, is due to the mixture of air and fuel. It is basic, basic chemistry. You should have learned this in 7th grade.
One might keep on believing that the explosion [ of the fuel ] would occur because of a chemical reaction.
That's not true. Because you know that after the fuel is poured on the floor then that fuel can be consumed by fire naturally, without any explosion.
Huh? Fire is a chemical reaction. It is the oxidation of hydrocarbons which can be seen by the incadescence of the reaction products. Are you really unaware that fire is a chemical reaction?
there is no remedy nor elixir that could make one abandon a belief since 'believing' is a persistent plague.
It is not a belief. It is a fact. It is a demonstrable and verifiable fact. Fire is a chemical reaction. The burning of fuel is a chemical reaction. Period.

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Message 40 of 87 (657810)
03-30-2012 4:37 PM
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03-30-2012 3:49 PM


Re: Definitions Reloaded Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH
Fire is a chemical reaction. However, the point was that there is no chemical reaction without appropriate conditions for that reaction to occur. And those conditions are sequences of time, whether a continuous sequence that terminates or an explosion [time of impact] occurring because that sequence has terminated.
An explosion is still a continuous sequence. The difference between an explosion and burning is completely arbitrary. One just happens faster than the other one.
If one sees a primary cause that goes before the reaction itself then a person will see the environmental conditions. And if one sees what goes before those conditions then a person will consider that a relation between time and space is that will make those conditions for the reaction to occur.
What does this have to do with anything? Wow, we observe that different conditions result in different rates of reaction. That is basic chemistry. You are just adding woo to an already well understood concept.

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Message 64 of 87 (658156)
04-02-2012 5:15 PM
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04-02-2012 5:05 PM


Re: A vivifying Quickening in a rapid-fire velocity
The term 'quivering' was substituted with a better translation: a vivifying quickening, a shaking agitation in a rapid fire velocity, which is an expression of life energy flowing through the nervous system when one trembles of rage or when a trembling of desire shakes one's body.
How did you determine that "life energy" is causing this?

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Message 67 of 87 (658161)
04-02-2012 6:07 PM
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04-02-2012 5:49 PM


Re: What Einstein and other physicians have been telling you
There is another sequence of time which is time in simultaneous sequence;
However, this doesn't apply to the nervous system or explosions. Nerve impulses in myelinated axons travel at a fairly slow rate (around 30 m/s if memory serves). Explosions occur over a span of time.
[ You have a sampling ] That place and kingdom [ whose time is in simultaneous sequence ] is inside of you; in your brain;
Evidence please.
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Message 72 of 87 (658798)
04-09-2012 5:50 PM
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04-09-2012 5:09 PM


Re: Seeing how different the life energy is from a chemical one
Life energy has life in itself. In nervous system, the life energy is an electrical energy of living nature because each motion interval from a trembling or trepidation is not caused by chemical reactions;
Perhaps you should read up on nerve impulses:
Nerve Impulses
And muscle contractions:
Muscle contraction - Wikipedia
And how nerve impulses cross synapses:
Synapses
With reference to these pages, please tell us what a trembling from a quickening is, and precisely which steps are life energy instead of chemical energy.
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Message 76 of 87 (658854)
04-10-2012 11:41 AM
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04-09-2012 5:09 PM


Re: Seeing how different the life energy is from a chemical one
The appropriate means by which life energy can be observed is the quickening and trepidation which occurs by pressing the palms of both hands together. The procedure begins by keeping the palms of both hands together up high, pressed to each other, for approximately 17 minutes. The quickening will occur spontaneously.
That's a bunch of malarky. Tremoring in this case is caused by muscle fibers switching off and on. When you flex a muscle only a fraction of the muscle fibers actually contract. As the flex continues the contracting fibers will relax and other fibers will beging to contract. They continue to switch off and on during the entire flex. As the muscle continues to contract the switching between fibers becomes more ragged and results in a more visible tremor. The tremor is there the whole time, it just becomes more apparent when the muscle is fatigued. Again, this is all chemically controlled. No life energy here.

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