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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 1 of 8 (656141)
03-16-2012 5:21 PM


The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
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Hi people. By understanding through discussion it's known that reasoning and ascertaining might contribute to discover whether the following info is true or not.
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lef Everything that has a beginning [ outside of what initiates life ] has an end.
beth Life [ the life energy ] and existence never had a beginning.
gmel Because both life and existence never had a beginning outside of what initiates life.
dlet Human beings do not initiate life by making clones or by reproduction nor do they make the beginning of life but simply an extension of what is already living.
h Living beings that have a central nervous system are extensions of life. Their life energy [ life force or living energy ] was not initiated by them, but emanated from what initiates life.
vv Being alive is not a property that emanated from the living beings themselves since their light of life [ their life energy ] can be taken or can be given by the source of life force or living energy [ the living light ] that initiates life.
zyin All animals and fish were designed to evolve but they do not evolve all by themselves; It’s the life energy [ the living light that emanates and flows ] in them that operates the power to reprogram their dna sequence.
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One might ascertain and verify that there's a source of life, an emanation of living light that vivifies the flesh since the life force or living energy is that quickens; the flesh alone profits nothing.
e. g.: The life force or living energy that runs through the nervous system of the Human body corresponds to a time of impact and a sequence of time. Specificity might be brought, along the discussion, about the emanation and permanence of that living energy in the Human body. In all cases, complete specificity might be shown on how three times of impact and two sequences of time do operate in the body.
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The matter to be discussed is how the life energy is initiated. According to the Evolution theory, life would have had a beginning from outside of what was already living and from a combination of dust, water and other chemical elements.
If the Evolution theory for the origin of life has a coherent point then people should be able to initiate life (or make a beginning of life) from outside of what is already living, which is physically impossible. But that's the Evolution theory: a vision of life having a beginning somewhere in the past and completely outside of what is already living, whether from a combination of dust, water or anything else, and from there evolving and all by itself.
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Now there is the option of ascertaining on how the life energy is initiated. One might ascertain that the living energy that stays in the Human body had a different beginning when seeing that the permanence time of the same life energy can be endlessly extended.
In order for a person to verify and ascertain that life and existence never had a beginning from outside of what initiates life, there is the option of accomplishing the Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy. The directives for the experiment will be provided along the discussion.
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For Human Origins.
Thank you.
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : the recent 2 paragraphs were re-edited as to keep only the most necessary things.
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : a vision of life having a beginning somewhere in the past and completely outside of what is already living
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : the living electricity stays in the Human body
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : life force or living energy
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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03-16-2012 9:00 PM
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Hi CrazyDiamond7,
This reads like a bunch of unsupported assertions, and the last 2 or 3 paragraphs do not appear to be making any related or even coherent point. Can you provide any evidence in support of the assertions, and better explain what you mean in those last few paragraphs?
Your welcome to put as much effort into this as you like, I'll be glad to review any and all revisions, but in all fairness I must add that in my opinion this proposal requires a great deal of work before I could promote it.

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Message 3 of 8 (656540)
03-19-2012 6:00 PM
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03-16-2012 9:00 PM


The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
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Hi Admin, the 2 recent paragraphs were re-edited as to keep only the most necessary things:
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quote:
The matter to be discussed is how the life energy [ or life force ] is initiated. According to the Evolution theory, life would have had a beginning from outside of what was already living and from a combination of dust, water and other chemical elements.
If the Evolution theory for the origin of life has a coherent point then people should be able to initiate life (or make a beginning of life) from outside of what is already living, which is physically impossible. But that's the Evolution theory: a vision of life having a beginning somewhere in the past and completely outside of what is already living, whether from a combination of dust, water or anything else, and from there evolving and all by itself.
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Now there is the option of ascertaining on how the life energy is initiated. One might ascertain that the living energy that stays in the Human body had a different beginning when seeing that the permanence time of the same life energy can be endlessly extended.
In order for a person to verify and ascertain that life and existence never had a beginning from outside of what initiates life, there is the option of accomplishing the Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy. The directives for the experiment will be provided along the discussion.
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : ascertain that the living electricity that stays in the Human body had a different beginning when seeing that the permanence time of the same life energy can be endlessly extended.
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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03-19-2012 6:15 PM
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Re: The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
Hi CD7,
I still don't see you offering any evidence for your position, but more importantly, the only point that comes across clearly (evolution is a theory of the natural origin of life, which is impossible) has nothing to do with your topic.
I'm unable to make much sense out of your proposal. Have you tried your ideas out at any Christian forums? If not, can I recommend refining them there before bringing them here?
Or is this perhaps a language problem? Are you really from Roraima in a remote part of Brazil? Is Portuguese your native language? Perhaps you could refine your ideas at a discussion board that uses Portuguese as its native language before trying to bring those ideas here.

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Message 5 of 8 (656632)
03-20-2012 4:48 PM
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Re: The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
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Hi Admin, there are two basic reasons for the respective Opening Post:
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1st. Let's discuss how life is initiated.
2nd. Let's discuss the possibility of people making the experiment whose result might be evidence on how life is initiated.
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If the matter to be discussed is How the life energy is initiated (as it was quoted before) then the part that is difficult to understand is why would a scientist not be willing to know the answer to this question since it's not possible for him to have that answer from the Evolution theory.
Because if that answer was already given or shown with evidence from what some scientists call 'a theory of the natural origin of life' then it would be possible for Humans to initiate life (or make a beginning of life) from outside of what is already living, which is physically impossible.
A scientist would be willing to see evidence that the permanence time of life energy that remains in the nervous system can be endlessly extended, however, that scientist can't have that proof without making the experiment.
If the possibility of making a new experiment will not be considered nor discussed then how would people know about the evidence since there is no evidence without the experiment ?
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New experiments as well as their results are not availabe in the Encyclopedias and dictionaries. If the new experiments are completely new then why would it not be worth the time to bring them to be discussed before and during the time that the experiment is on progress.
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Message 6 of 8 (656695)
03-21-2012 7:16 AM
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03-20-2012 4:48 PM


Re: The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
Hi CD7,
I'm afraid I only have more questions. Is it the origin of life you'd like to discuss? What is "life energy"? Do you want to discuss artificial life, perhaps something along the lines of Craig Venter's efforts? What is "permanence time"?
Also, we just had a couple threads discussing whether evolution is a theory of the origin of life, it's too soon for another, so I'd need you to remove any hint of confusion between evolution and abiogenesis.

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Message 7 of 8 (656754)
03-21-2012 6:26 PM
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03-21-2012 7:16 AM


Re: The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
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What is 'life energy' ? .. What is 'permanence time' ?
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Life Energy is the life force or living energy which, in nervous system, increases the rate of nervous vibrations.
Every nervous vibration is a trembling that equates to a sequence of time.
It might be alternated from a continuous sequence to an immediate and simultaneous sequence.
Permanence time [ or permanence of life ] is the expected time that the life energy will stay in the Human body.
Knowing that nervous vibration is the cause of all cerebral action, a nervous trembling may occur for different reasons: rage, famine, desire and others; the permanence time that is expected for the life energy to stay in the Human body can be extended endlessly when the reason why a nervous trembling will occur is a nervous contraction generated by a vibration which is called 'time of impact by the shortening between the right and left side of one's brain.
The respective shortening and nervous trembling occurs by pressing the palms of both hands together, pressed to each other with all one's strength. (complementary info might be added)
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The first directives for the experiment to be accomplished is the distinction between compatible and incompatible frequency of the quivering [ or trembling ] which is consequence of the natural vibration of life energy [ in nervous system ].
When a person eats solely what is living then the nervous system is compatible for the natural vibration of life energy to be increased and extended.
That compatibility of the nervous system is necessary and required for the respective shortening during the experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy of the Human body.
And when a person eats continuously *what is not living then the nervous system becomes incompatible; because the sequence of time in it is too continuous and will lack in permanence for the life force to be increased during the contraction and trembling of the time of impact by the shortening between the right and left side of one's brain.
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* e.g.: the grains of rice or beans are not living anymore when a person eats them.
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : frequency of the quivering [ or trembling ] which is consequence of the natural vibration of life energy [ in nervous system ].
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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Re: The Experiment to extend the permanence time of life energy
Previous message promoted as Is there a life energy?.

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