????? You have been given evidence of this by more than me Zealot.
You referred to Blatant Latin homophobic mistranslations. I found none such. I referred to both the Masoretic and Septuagint to review the translations. They confirmed my beliefs.
Only difference was that you then chose to deny 'man lies with mankind' was a direct homosexual reference. Instead the argument was 'there was no such thing as homosexuality back then'.
Evidence you call it ?
Lev 18-20 was specifically addressed to the people, not priests, yet you insists it wasn't.
What is the point af discussing it with you ?
You aren't talking about me. I have not posted anything from another forum, particularly to belittle Xtians. Or are you saying this is what I must do in order to get you to respond?
See the thread starter.
I'm debating with you Zealot, not them, and you are the one leaving now that your argument is crumbling before you (with the expressed intention of finding a like minded audience), not me.
How many Christians on this site ? You'd think if I wanted to find a like minded audience I would go somewhere else huh ? Instead I argue against a lesbian , a bisexual and whatever Rrhain is.
PS: When someone chooses to question even the most elementary facts , there is little point in continuing a discussion.
No, what I did not have was YOUR understanding of Lev. This is the point of having a debate.
Try the Christian understanding of Lev.
I have been willing to accept that the specific Biblical condemnation of homosexuality in English texts was legit. I am still willing to accept that outcome. Show me the evidence and logic, but don't expect me to just swallow whatever you are shovelling.
I see no difference between the English translation of the Maseritic text and the English KJV or the English translation of the Septuagint.
They all say the same thing.
1) Judge not, less ye be judged.
This shows to me you haven't the first clue of Christianity.
My choice? Great. Then you will start presenting evidence to support your 2part Lev interpretation. This includes evidence to rebut the problems I have pointed out.
I've provided those already. Your choice was blatant denial.
Shall, I'll spend yet another 2 hours wasting my time, trying to help you come to an understanding, when you will question even the most simplistic verses ?
Or shall I just copy and paste a selection of quotes from you on this site in an attempt to view your bias ?
Shall we try the latter ?
"Historically some of the worst diseases in Western history (the major plagues) were exacerbated by Xtian ignorance regarding disease and how to treat it, thus hitting them much harder than they had to."
"The deal is that our (by which I mean the western world's) current calender/dating system is based on Xtian mythology and while not intolerable to continue using, does seem somewhat clunky and pointless."
"I do not view the Bible as the work of God. I view the Bible as the work of men. Much more than that, it seems that the disjointed and inconsistent passages are actually cobbled together "fables" and "myths" from earlier sources."
"Become rambling? The Bible IS rambling. It looks suspiciously like other pieces of literature that are accumulations of many previous works patched together to look as if it is one story."
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If you see the Bible as 'disjointed and inconsistent passages' why do you even waste people's time trying to discuss it ?
Just forget about it, move on with your life and accept that other people might not have difficulty understanding it, thus they might have different opinions.
However, trying to convince me that you're actually interested in coming to a truth regarding the text is futile. I see no point in wasting anymore time discussing Biblical text with you.