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Author Topic:   Another anti-evolution bill, Missouri 2012
Trixie
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Message 223 of 283 (650637)
02-01-2012 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by Artemis Entreri
02-01-2012 12:15 PM


Re: general reply to the bombsquad
Artemis Entreri writes:
Just like I don’t tell you how to be a subject of your Queen, I won’t hear anything from you people about our constitution. Mind your own business.
There isn't really an appropriate response to this boorishness. However I will not be butting out of this thread, since as a scientist I have every right to comment on attacks on science wherever they occur.

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Trixie
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Message 240 of 283 (650785)
02-02-2012 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by New Cat's Eye
02-02-2012 4:44 PM


Re: SHOW ME
There's no doubt about what this bill is attempting to do.
1. Get religion, ID and creationism into science classes
2. Avoid overtly breaching the Constitution by careful wording.
Do they really think that they're fooling anyone? I suppose that the only reason they keep trying this is because they believe that their version of God is above the Constitution and/or the Constitution isn't worth jack.

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Trixie
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Message 245 of 283 (650934)
02-03-2012 2:43 PM
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02-03-2012 9:49 AM


Re: F the DI
I think the only time"worth" comes into it is when they consider the cost of trying to defend violating the Consitution. I don't think it has anything to do with the value of the Constitution itself.

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Trixie
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Message 259 of 283 (651621)
02-08-2012 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Artemis Entreri
02-08-2012 12:03 PM


Re: general reply to the bombsquad
Artemis Entreri writes:
I can’t believe these guys are try to do this in the form of legislation, I think it would be more sneaky and efficient to create their own textbooks, and then get schools to use their question science textbooks.
That's exactly what they tried to do in Dover with the ID textbook "Of Pandas and People". It was ruled unconstitutonal because ID was deemed to be religiously motivated. So now they're trying it using Bills. The wording is deliberately loose in the hope of getting round the Establishment clause.

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Trixie
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Message 268 of 283 (651711)
02-09-2012 1:59 PM


Link to the first Missouri bill which does't mince it's words one bit
http://www.house.mo.gov/...bills121/biltxt/intro/HB1227I.htm
Can anyone argue that this one isn't proposing the teacing of ID aka religion in science classes?
The authors of this bill are the authors of the second one. Can anyone doubt their intent? This bill, as written, shows a complete lack of understanding of the subject, yet they feel they are qualified to comment and legislate on it.
Edited by Trixie, : Adding a bit more diatribe

  
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