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Author Topic:   Another anti-evolution bill, Missouri 2012
Percy
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Message 229 of 283 (650673)
02-01-2012 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Artemis Entreri
02-01-2012 12:12 PM


Re: I've Shown You Mine...
Artemis Entreri writes:
I agree with you. This bill will probably have to be revised with some of the wordage changed a bit, really it doesn't accomplish anything, nor do I think it would affect much of anything.
If the wording of the bill were changed to provide examples of actual scientific controversies instead of citing the old creationist bugaboos of evolution and a natural origin of life, and to remove the dead giveaway of claiming not to be religiously motivated, then it might be able to pass constitutional muster.
the slippery slope mindset that schools all across Missouri are going to teach creationism is what is silly to me, that the application of this bill is some vast conspiracy to deny people their constitutional rights is even sillier.
I don't know if I'd characterize creationist efforts against evolution as a "vast conspiracy", but it does have a long history. Government advancement of the cause of any religion at any governmental level is unconstitutional, so if the bill does somehow pass it will quickly be challenged. Defending such efforts in court is very expensive for the losing side, but this hasn't seemed to diminish Christian enthusiasm.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 242 of 283 (650793)
02-02-2012 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Artemis Entreri
02-02-2012 4:22 PM


Re: I've Shown You Mine...
Artemis Entreri writes:
yeah yeah yeah. That is what the "they" said about Missouri's anti-gay marriage amendment, and here we are 8 years later and guess what that amendment is still there.
You're rebuttal is that someone else was wrong about something else?
I guess we will see who is correct if this passes.
The outcome of efforts by boards of education and state legislatures to promote creationism has been very consistently one-sided, but as we can see by your own example, fundamentalists seem more than willing to keep repeating this history.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 250 of 283 (651286)
02-06-2012 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 249 by Artemis Entreri
02-06-2012 9:22 AM


Re: I've Shown You Mine...
Artemis Entreri writes:
And as we can see by your example, Authoritarians will stop at nothing to make everyone follow their rules.
I think "Authoritarians" refers to those proposing bills in state legislatures to force their religious views into public schools.
By "their rules" you do realize that you're referring to the constitution? They're your rules, too.
--Percy

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