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Author Topic:   What bothers me about the evolution of Man
zi ko
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Message 136 of 142 (650137)
01-28-2012 2:16 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Larni
01-27-2012 3:18 AM


Re: Brain is a functual extension of DNA
So in your opinion new ideas are bad. Very interesting.

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Message 137 of 142 (650138)
01-28-2012 2:33 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Wounded King
01-27-2012 11:30 AM


Re: Not every topic is your topic
I had never expected my ideas to be treated otherwise by fanatic followers of an obsolete theory with suspicious motives.

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Message 138 of 142 (650140)
01-28-2012 6:49 AM
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01-28-2012 2:16 AM


Re: Brain is a functual extension of DNA
New ideas are not bad.
Shit ideas are just that: shit ideas.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Message 139 of 142 (650143)
01-28-2012 7:12 AM
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01-27-2012 1:12 AM


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I have removed your posting privileges in the Human Origins and Evolution forum.

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PlanManStan
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Message 140 of 142 (713605)
12-14-2013 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by frako
12-02-2011 7:48 AM


Good Questions
Most biologists and anthrologists (?) believe that our brains got so large so that we could better understand and communicate with each other. This has obvious advantages, especially back when it first began to evolve. The cons began to outway the pros eventually, and our brain size caps off at about 1400cc (cubic centimeters). Other aps probably did not need it and it may have something to do with the fact that we are bipedal. Many late bipedal apes did have relatively large brains, as a matter of fact.

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Message 141 of 142 (713612)
12-14-2013 7:45 PM
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12-14-2013 7:36 PM


Re: Good Questions
Most biologists and anthrologists (?) believe that our brains got so large so that we could better understand and communicate with each other.
When I was in grad school some years ago my physical anthropology professor things larger brain size was a side effect.
He was of the opinion that the change to H. erectus involved a number of things, including more grassland adaptation, more bipedalism (and running), tool use, family structure, and that much of this came about in conjunction with persistence hunting.
Also included were loss of heavy body hair (for better cooling), much better memory and spacial sense (for tracking an animal and then remembering where you left the family after the hunt), and, to a lesser degree, communication (for the hunt and for explaining to the family if you were gone for days and didn't come back with anything).

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Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

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Message 142 of 142 (713628)
12-14-2013 10:44 PM
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12-14-2013 7:36 PM


Re: Good Questions
And then there is sexual selection for creativeness in mates where brain size is a secondary effect of the selection.
Evidence today is that this selection is still in effect in humans. Look at who are considered sexy icons -- pop musicians or nobel prize winners?
That this also explains apparent bareness where skin hair halts at the vellus stage in women so that they appear younger.
Enjoy.

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