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Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 25 (648289)
01-14-2012 8:31 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Granny Magda
01-14-2012 8:16 AM


Re: Chuck Weasels Out of Debate Again
This site is dead if the creationists present refuse to debate.
Refuse or are prohibited from?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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jar
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Message 17 of 25 (648299)
01-14-2012 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
01-14-2012 8:31 AM


Prohibitions?
There is a site, where you are a member and you are allowed to post anything you want without any censorship at all, but of course you simply ran away there as expected.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Larni
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Message 18 of 25 (648302)
01-14-2012 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by jar
01-14-2012 9:30 AM


Re: Prohibitions?
Speaking of which, do you still actively maintain your site? I used to like dropping into chat and pulling up a stump.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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jar
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Message 19 of 25 (648305)
01-14-2012 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Larni
01-14-2012 9:44 AM


Re: Prohibitions?
No, I canceled the chat function but still maintain the site. I have closed off registration though but any existing users can still post and any new ones can just contact me to get registered.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Coyote
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Message 20 of 25 (648308)
01-14-2012 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chuck77
01-14-2012 1:41 AM


A few problems
"After the Flood, the marsupials left the Ark and dispersed around the world. They could have dispersed before many of the other mammalian varieties. They occupied various niches around the world, but were eventually driven off by competition in Europe, Africa, and Asia. Finally, they ended up establishing themselves in more distant (vis--vis the Middle East) regions. As ocean levels rose at the end of the Ice Age, land bridges were eliminated and the migrant marsupials were stuck where they were.10 There’s also evidence suggesting that human travellers introduced some of the marsupials to distant lands, which can explain conundrums of very similar marsupials in different parts of the world.11"
A few problems:
--There is no evidence for a flood.
--There is no evidence for an ark.
--There is a lack of marsupial fossils in recent times in Europe, Africa, and Asia.
--The flood is supposed to have occurred some 4,350 years ago, while the most recent ice age faded away well over 12,000 years ago.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Granny Magda
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Message 21 of 25 (648311)
01-14-2012 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
01-14-2012 8:31 AM


Re: Chuck Weasels Out of Debate Again
Hi Buz,
I was referring to Chuck77 and, to some extent, Portillo, not you. There is nothing stopping either of them from making replies of substance, but it seems that neither of them is willing to step up. Trying to wring a sensible argument out of either of them is like getting blood out of a stone.
I appreciate that you might have a lot to say on the threads in question, but it's not really anything I can help you with.
Mutate and Survive

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Buzsaw
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Message 22 of 25 (648329)
01-14-2012 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by jar
01-14-2012 9:30 AM


Re: Prohibitions?
jar writes:
There is a site, where you are a member and you are allowed to post anything you want without any censorship at all, but of course you simply ran away there as expected.
It's just that your dreamer catching cite was a place where I soon tired of debating three like-minded members.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 23 of 25 (648330)
01-14-2012 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Granny Magda
01-14-2012 12:22 PM


Re: Chuck Weasels Out of Debate Again
Hi Buz,
Granny Magda writes:
I was referring to Chuck77 and, to some extent, Portillo, not you. There is nothing stopping either of them from making replies of substance, but it seems that neither of them is willing to step up. Trying to wring a sensible argument out of either of them is like getting blood out of a stone.
I appreciate that you might have a lot to say on the threads in question, but it's not really anything I can help you with.
Perhaps Chuck was reluctant to debate a pack of evolutionists with one or two supporting his PoV.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Tidying msg

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Coyote
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Message 24 of 25 (648331)
01-14-2012 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Buzsaw
01-14-2012 3:56 PM


Re: Chuck Weasels Out of Debate Again
Buz, debates of this type are no problem if you can cite evidence that can't be disproved.
If the evidence one is citing is easily disproved, it doesn't matter how much one believes in it--it won't take you far.
Unfortunately that's where creationists generally run into problems. It is not very wise or very productive to tell a working scientist that he is wrong based on something one has seen on a creationist website; this is especially true when one has no personal knowledge of that particular field.
Yet this is what we so often see in these debates.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 25 of 25 (648332)
01-14-2012 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Buzsaw
01-14-2012 3:40 PM


Re: Prohibitions?
But you are still free to post there and post anything you want. No reason to claim that you are kept from posting.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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