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Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 68 (64480)
11-04-2003 10:39 PM


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quote: Buz:
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I don't see why one who badmouths the true god Jehovah should expect to get anything from him without repentance to begin with.
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Quote: Schrafinator response:
I don't badmouth God, buzsaw.
It it true that I have little patience for foolishness and intellectual dishonesty, but it has nothing to do with God.
If God exists, I doubt that She will be so insecure and egomaniacal as to need me to apologize to Her for anything.
Besides, She has always known what I would do and how I would act, anyway. I am exactly the way She made me, and She likes me this way.
Shall we explain to Shrafinator what badmouthing involves or do we simply ignore her insolence to the Christian and Jewish god Jehovah who has always referred to himself in the male gender? It's gotta be insolence. Surely she's not that ignorant.
And btw, does she really understand foolishness and intellectual dishonesty?

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Buzsaw
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Message 4 of 68 (64488)
11-05-2003 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by sidelined
11-04-2003 11:07 PM


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Do you feel a punishment is in order?Perhaps God is sensitive about this and will strike her dead.Revenge is mine sayeth the lord? Perhaps in your righteous indignation you would feel it should be you who metes out any punishment.Is a stoning out of the question? Maybe some other punishment from the bible would be more suited to the crime.If you have a streak of agression you could think up your own method of inflicting a suitable punishment.
Honestly is it not the right of a human being to have his/her own opinion on issues despite it flying in the face of what you believe.It would do you good to turn the other cheek methinks.
I've no way of guessing what God should or would do to anyone. That's his business. My original point was that for one to get from God, there's responsibilities to assume according to his words and one of those is deep respect.
Imo, her response to my statement contradicts her statement that she's not a badmouther of the god, Jehovah. I've no desire for evil to come to her and certainly, yes, she's as much right to say what she wants as the rest of us. You miss my point completely. I just thought she'd be smart enough to understand that her statement would be as badmouthingly insolent to the god Jehovah as I would to her if I called her Mr. Schrafinator, knowing she was a female. That's all. Get it now?

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Buzsaw
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Message 6 of 68 (64490)
11-05-2003 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Brad McFall
11-04-2003 11:24 PM


Re: Proverbs?
I'm puzzled by your post, Brad. Good scriptures but what relative to the topic do they prove or what point relevent to this topic are you trying to make? Btw, I just voted for two women today for local offices but no way will I publicly refer to them as "him/he" when no sensible or respectful person in my town would refer to them as "her/she."
[This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-05-2003]

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Buzsaw
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Message 7 of 68 (64491)
11-05-2003 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Zhimbo
11-05-2003 12:39 AM


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You have large, ergonomically designed, prominent buttons installed, Buz.
I'll run with that as a compliment, Zhimbo, as ergonomics seem to be in here in town. You haven't noticed how large Shrafinator's have become?

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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 68 (64499)
11-05-2003 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by sidelined
11-05-2003 12:53 AM


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I am sorry but I cannot see how you find the audacity to believe that you somehow presume to understand what would or would not piss God off in the first place.
That's a no brainer, Sidelined that one would show less respect for deity than would be considered for a fellow human. G'nite/morning.

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Buzsaw
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Message 12 of 68 (64500)
11-05-2003 1:32 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by NosyNed
11-05-2003 1:18 AM


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It seems to me that God can't possibly be either male or female. She/He is the god of all humans right?
Plus we are all made in His/Her image right?
Doesn't seem to work if God is specifically either gender. Besides why does a unique creature need gender?
Mmmmm, I'm beginning to see why you people manage to swallow that impossible evo pill. One more time before the sack..... Now read what I'm sayin VERY carefully and T H I N K, Ned. All 12 or 14 hundred or so pages of his book refer to both him and his son in the male gender. I'll leave you with that. Try REAL HARD to think of why he would prefer being refered to as he refers himself. Think REAL HARD, now Ned and as I hit the hay I'll pray REAL HARD in the name of his son Jesus that you'll be able to fathom this very DEEEEEEP concept. Ok?

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Buzsaw
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Message 31 of 68 (64657)
11-05-2003 11:32 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by NosyNed
11-05-2003 1:33 AM


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Does God have no sense of humour?
Don't think he'll view insults to creator/deity as humor in the judgement. This's the kind of stuff that gets his dander up.

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Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 68 (64658)
11-05-2003 11:36 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by PaulK
11-05-2003 2:25 AM


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I really don't understand the issue. If you were a Mormon then you'd HAVE to insist that God was male. However I don't see how a transcendant unique self-sufficient deity would have a gender as we understand it.
I don't try to understand one who is of a much higher dimension of myself. I read his book and see what he is. Are you able to do that?
[This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-05-2003]

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Buzsaw
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Message 33 of 68 (64662)
11-05-2003 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by JustinC
11-05-2003 8:04 AM


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Buz, can someone explain to me why an eternal, omnipotent, and omniscient being would have a male or female sexual organ?
Understanding the god Jehovah is to read his book of over a thousand pages in which he's self depicted as male gender. Spirit deity needs nothing physical including specific body parts to determine gender. Don't try to make him human. His inspired words says he's male, all 1000 + pages of them. You wanta feminize him, go ahead at your own risk, but remember one thing........he also refers of himself as a "consuming fire" and he, the god of love, does get fed up eventually and becomes the god of wrath. Just a helpful warning from a friend. Ok?

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Buzsaw
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Message 34 of 68 (64665)
11-06-2003 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by crashfrog
11-05-2003 8:28 AM


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We're talking about an entity that creates life, nurtures its children, has a son with no mate, and has enough unconditional love for every being in the universe.
1. Crashy, there's one problematic word in your statement about God, that word unconditional. You insult him by feminizing him and some day in the here or the hereafter you'll see his love is not totally unconditional. "Be sure your sins will find you out", says, not buz, but God's words.
2. The male is created and depicted as the stronger of the sexes with the leadership role in the Bible. To feminize the creator deity is to imply that deity to be of the "weaker sex."
[This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-06-2003]

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Buzsaw
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Message 35 of 68 (64666)
11-06-2003 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Dan Carroll
11-05-2003 9:16 AM


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Sure he does. He planted all that evidence for an old Earth all over the place
Buz's never claimed the earth to be young.........Just the living stuff in it.

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Buzsaw
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Message 36 of 68 (64667)
11-06-2003 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by IrishRockhound
11-05-2003 9:39 AM


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I think Buz might be missing the point here... Was Schraf necessarily talking about the Christian god? There's any number of goddesses out there who wouldn't think twice about that post.
Her post was in respnse to a buz post, so buz assumes it was in reference to the god buz was referring to in the thread.

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Buzsaw
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Message 37 of 68 (64668)
11-06-2003 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Amlodhi
11-05-2003 10:02 AM


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Because all of these pages were written by people who were steeped in a patriarchal culture.
........in the original book about Jehovah, so what else do you have to go by? If it were't the Bible nobody'd ever know there was a Jehovah. So let him choose his gender. If you want to talk about a goddess, go to another book of another religion. Ok?

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Buzsaw
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Message 38 of 68 (64669)
11-06-2003 12:19 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Coragyps
11-05-2003 12:37 PM


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And just how much respect do you commonly show, buz, for the Invisible Pink Unicorn (PBUHHH!)? Or Eris? Or Coyote?
Let these gods prove themselves as Jehovah has by something supernatual and they'll have my respect. In fact I respect Satan and his demons as powerful real life beings. That's why I go to God and his son, Jesus to overcome and resist these powerful entities and their human agents, whomever thay may be. Jesus is the "big brother" who can whop them. Puny little humankind bus's no match ror the least of these without higher help.

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Buzsaw
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Message 39 of 68 (64671)
11-06-2003 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Loudmouth
11-05-2003 12:51 PM


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How about another DEEEEP concept. God told Moses "I am the I am." The one time God could have picked a sex and didn't. The references to HIM was put in by male scribes and human writers, not God referencing his/herself. If anything, God is androgenous.
I can't believe the total ignorance you all are expressing in these nonsensical posts about the god Jehovah. When I make statements about Muhammed or his god Allah, you all in a chorus want documentation from his book the Quran. So why don't you all give the god Jehovah the same respect and let him say who and what he is?? Your nonsenical statement is implying that every statement in the Bible about the god Jehovah must refer to gender. The cited scripture simply is saying he's the "existing one," which is the meaning of Jehovah. This's all so nonsensical on youall's part. Shame on the lot of you in this regard!
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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz
[This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-06-2003]

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