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agent_509
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Message 1 of 358 (645155)
12-23-2011 9:10 PM


over a year ago I registered on this forum, a fundamentalist christian young-earth creationist. I started participating in a topic all ready to "prove to some evil evolutionists that creationism was right!" and got utterly destroyed. I was so embarrassed I left the forum and didn't come back. Some time later, thanks in part to seeing what an idiot I was, I am now actually an atheist who accepts the theory of evolution. Should be interesting debating from this new perspective.

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Message 3 of 358 (645158)
12-23-2011 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Coyote
12-23-2011 9:22 PM


A number of things. It pretty much started with one of my whacko extreme fundamentalist christian teachers spouting absolute nonsense. In the process of sorting through all the crap she was spouting, i ended up questioning my own beliefs, and actually reading the bible for myself. I found pretty surprising things. After seeing that I had absolutely no reason to believe what I believed I opened my mind to all possibilities looking at facts. That made me look at evolution without a bias and I realized how much sense it made and how many facts backed it up. Here i am today. I'm currently a physics major hoping to one day obtain a doctorate in theoretical physics. Seeing everything with an open mind cosmology and theoretical physics are just so fascinating.

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Message 6 of 358 (645161)
12-23-2011 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by GDR
12-23-2011 9:42 PM


haha thanks yeah I've done a lot of reading and research over the last year so I've had a lot of different takes. You have a merry Christmas too. Christmas, holidays, whatever we're all talking about the same time of the year, different names don't really matter.

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Message 9 of 358 (645171)
12-24-2011 12:27 AM
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12-23-2011 10:49 PM


definitely legit, and yes there was lots of thinking and studying done

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Message 22 of 358 (645229)
12-24-2011 2:23 PM


Yes I might have to respond to my original messages at some point, although crashfrog is right, this isn't really the thread for it.

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Message 43 of 358 (645262)
12-24-2011 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Dawn Bertot
12-24-2011 6:32 PM


Re: Welcome back!
Since creationism is an evaluation of the real world concerning its origin and derives all its conclusions in a scientific manner, it follows that your above request is an absurdity
ROFL, are you thinking of the same definition of creationism everyone else is? If so, creationism conclusions are derived from the bible, and then creationists try and find facts to support it. This wouldn't be a problem, if facts supporting it actually existed.

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agent_509
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Message 45 of 358 (645264)
12-24-2011 8:15 PM
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12-24-2011 8:08 PM


Re: Welcome back!
creationists are the scientific rational ones, and evolutionists are the religious, dogmatic zealots who have blind faith. Interesting projection.

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agent_509
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Message 47 of 358 (645269)
12-24-2011 8:35 PM
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12-24-2011 8:31 PM


Re: Welcome back!
I'm well aware that there are other Christianities out there, and I've looked at many different ones, as well as different other religions, but none stand up. As I believe I mentioned before examining the facts and coming to accept ToE was a result of becoming an atheist, not the reason I became an atheist.

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agent_509
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Message 53 of 358 (645285)
12-24-2011 11:09 PM
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12-24-2011 10:33 PM


Re: Welcome back!
I'm probably about a 6. I feel there is probably no god/gods, but I accept that there very well could be, and am completely open to the idea if evidence is presented.

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Message 59 of 358 (645305)
12-25-2011 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Dr Adequate
12-25-2011 1:00 AM


Re: Welcome back!
I see I'll keep that in mind

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Message 94 of 358 (645738)
12-29-2011 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Artemis Entreri
12-28-2011 4:58 PM


Re: bummer man
I don't "hate" my former self, I'm just pissed that my formal self didn't see things sooner.

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Message 142 of 358 (646082)
01-02-2012 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by herebedragons
01-02-2012 9:20 AM


that is basically what happened to me when I had finished my high school biology class and came on here to debate. I definitely agree that the YECs do create a false dichotomy of the issue.

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