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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Just keep questioning and all will be okay.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Read his post.
It was not understanding that Evolution is a fact and that the Theory of Evolution is the only model that explains the diversity of life we see that turned him into an atheist, it was the Bible and finding out that the pastors or ministers had been lying to him for all those years that turned him from being a Christian to being an atheist. Christianity itself has no problem accepting either Evolution or the Theory of Evolution.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It is so funny when Creationists make any claim that they follow the scientific method or manner. It is also simply false and once again an example of the misrepresentation and total lack of any culture of honesty similar to what is the basis of Science.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But not very surprising.
Think back to when you wandered in here. What is sad at least to me, is that your experience was so totally unnecessary. What seems so often to create "atheists" is that almost everything taught by the CCoI is so false that anyone like you that stops and examines what is being taught, whether it is the science or the theology, really has no choice but to reject both. All I can tell you is that the Christianity that was marketed to you is not the only Christianity out there.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And as I said up thread, you becoming an atheist is fine, in fact I would say that atheism is the more reasonable, logical and consistent position; I just think it is also wrong. But unless and until someone is presented with sufficient evidence to convince them that GOD exists, atheism is certainly a defensible position.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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There is evidence of natural causes.
Until you can present comparable evidence of the "Designer" you have nothing. It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You like to misrepresent what I write it seems.
We can see many causes without any necessity to find some ultimate cause, and we have found many causes. In every case we have found only Natural Causes. Not one single example of supernatural cause has ever been found. There is evidence that the "Scripture" is often patently false. It is wrong to teach falsehoods in school. There is only one model and that is the scientific model.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Dawn writes: Pay close attention to the next statment D. How does TOE point to the conclusion of Soley natural causes. It is interesting that you ignored any of my points and continued to lecture on evolution. Here they are again, then I will answer your direct question. There is evidence of natural causes and there has never been any evidence of anything BUT natural causes.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Do you have any evidence other than natural causes?
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I strike a match it lights.
Your turn.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It doesn't matter who struck the match, it is still a totally natural cause.
Can you provide an example of a non-natural cause?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It is irrelevant that the match in my example did not strike itself (although the fact that matches can strike themselves was the reason that safety matches were developed), the cause is still a natural cause.
Now please present an example of an unnatural cause. Until you can provide evidence of some supernatural cause you have nothing. It really is that simple. Now present an example of a non-natural cause.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Here is the content of your first reply to me in this thread.
quote: I have read that carefully and find no evidence of non-natural causes. I have presented an example of a natural cause. Now it is up to you to present an example of a non-natural cause.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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You do not start doing science with an answer, the answer comes as a conclusion based on evidence.
If and when you actually present evidence of an all wise mind, then that evidence can be tested.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Not exactly even close Mike.
I do not start with an assumption that life can be explained without God. Bring on the evidence and I will happily consider it. I could write "If there is a gritchnitch then ..." It is without meaning just as your assertion is without meaning.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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