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Panda
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Message 139 of 602 (636986)
10-12-2011 5:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 137 by xongsmith
10-12-2011 5:02 PM

Re: Demand What Of Their Congressman?
xongsmith writes:
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Why doesn't Onifre have a rating yet? In my book he is a 10.0.
Not enough Onifre posts have been cheered/jeered in the past 6 months - or some such technicality.
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Message 141 of 602 (636991)
10-12-2011 6:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 140 by xongsmith
10-12-2011 5:54 PM

Re: Demand What Of Their Congressman?
xongsmith writes:
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And part of of me doesn't want this ever to come to light because of the misuse that would ensue.
Admin has elaborated on the process in a recent post - so I will leave the choice to 'know' or 'not know' in your own hands...
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Message 276 of 602 (638840)
10-26-2011 12:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 272 by Buzsaw
10-26-2011 11:06 AM

Re: A Few Facts
Buzsaw writes:
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Who's funding them and caring for their jobs and businesses while they protest business and capital enterprise?
Maybe it's different in America, but in the UK we are allowed to take time off from work and spend the money we have earned.
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Message 291 of 602 (638913)
10-26-2011 9:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 286 by Buzsaw
10-26-2011 7:55 PM

Re: A Few Facts
Buzsaw writes:
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In UK does this apply to time off for protesting rallies during normal work time?
Maybe it is different in America, but in the UK we can go wherever we want and do whatever we want when we take time off from work.
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Message 299 of 602 (638945)
10-27-2011 5:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 292 by Buzsaw
10-26-2011 11:00 PM

Re: A Few Facts
Buzsaw writes:
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You're doing a classic straw job, Panda. My point was that many of these protesters are there 24/7. Those have no jobs.
No - I am saying that in the UK we are legally entitled to take time off from work and (if we choose) spend 24/7 at a protest rally.
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Buzsaw writes:
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No employer in UK or the US is going to just let them take normal work time off for that purpose 24/7. No?
Maybe it is different in America, but in the UK, when we take a day off from work we get to spend the whole day (24/7) away from work.
And as I said previously, we can go wherever we want and do whatever we want.
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Buzsaw writes:
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Someone is providing the squatters with their needs Some of them are likely 99 week unemployed trashing up the property of the taxpayers paying their dime.
Maybe it is different in America, but in the UK we can take weeks off from work and (if we choose) use the money we have earned to attend a protest rally.
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So, to spell it out, in the UK:
Employers will give employees weeks off from work.
Employees are allowed to spend their all of their time off (24/7) at protest rallies.
Employees are allowed to use their earnings to support themselves while at protest rallies.
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But maybe it is different in America...
Is it?
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Message 302 of 602 (638956)
10-27-2011 8:45 AM 		Reply to: Message 301 by frako
10-27-2011 6:23 AM

Re: A Few Facts
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Wtf weeks off from work u call that getting fired or something
Buzsaw has 'cheered' your reply - have I misunderstood something?
Aren't Americans entitled to annual leave?
In the UK we are legally entitled to 28 days off from work each year.
Do Americans not get holidays?
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Message 305 of 602 (638976)
10-27-2011 10:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 303 by jar
10-27-2011 10:06 AM

Re: vacation nad time off
jar writes:
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Actually, there is no legal requirement for any time off in the US
But is it normal for Americans to be allowed several weeks annual leave by their employers?
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Message 310 of 602 (638989)
10-27-2011 11:24 AM 		Reply to: Message 308 by hooah212002
10-27-2011 10:58 AM

Re: vacation nad time off
Hooah writes:
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Not only that, but that is only if you are a full time regular employee. I have been a contractor for the last two places I worked at.
The 28 days obligatory days are pro-rata-ed for part-time employees in the UK.
And contractors are paid more than standard employees to compensate them for no paid holidays/sickness pay/maternity leave/etc.
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10-27-2011 11:50 AM 		Reply to: Message 312 by hooah212002
10-27-2011 11:40 AM

Re: vacation nad time off
Hooah writes:
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Part timers here get ZERO benefits.
I know fellow Britains that slag off the UK, but it doesn't take much looking around to see that it has got a lot of important things right.
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Message 316 of 602 (639000)
10-27-2011 11:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 314 by Omnivorous
10-27-2011 11:45 AM

Re: vacation and time off
Omni writes:
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then we will undermine the lean, competitive companies that support our vibrant American economy.
Don't worry!
You have a massive prison population to help prop up your economy with cheap labour!
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Message 392 of 602 (639321)
10-30-2011 12:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 391 by DC85
10-30-2011 12:10 PM

Re: OPD Crowd Control Policy
DC85 writes:
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Sorry to say I want you to prove this point. All evidence I've seen points to unjust force on the part of the Oakland PD.
Buzsaw doesn't do evidence.
But he will keep repeating the same unevidenced claims if you ask him to.
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Message 496 of 602 (639626)
11-02-2011 12:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 494 by Rahvin
11-02-2011 12:37 PM

Re: Both sides of the fence?
Rahvin writes:
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It's gotten to the point that few actually think about why they support this issue or that - if the issue is supported by their "team," then they support it.
In the UK, we have a history of people voting according to their family's preferences.
Many times British people have said something like:
"I vote Labour. I've always voted Labour. My father voted labour and so did his father. This is a Labour voting family." (Labour is the main left wing party)
It is as if they think the political party has not changed in 60+ years and so there is no reason to adjust their vote.
Attitudes like that are wrong and undermine confidence in democracy.
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