ICANT'S position in the creation debate

At no point does the object on the clock numbers make a circle around the other object.To use another analogy, let's say that you have a rock on the end of a string. You start twirling the rock around your body. You now claim that it is actually your body that is going about the rock. Of course, people think you are a bit strange. You then explain that if you spun the rock around your head for 24 hours that the Earth would take you in a circular path which means that your cirlced aroud the rock. Now people think you are really nuts, and for good reason.

Hi ICANT, Assuming you are serious, I'll take your illustration. The orbit of the object (sun) that stayed on the numbers being much longer it takes relatively longer time (225 million years) to complete one revolution whereas the orbit of the other object (earth) being shorter it takes shorter time(1 year) to revolve around the object on the number (sun). Since the other object(earth) revolves around the object on the number(sun) along its movement around the numbers(galaxy), we cannot say the object on the number (sun) revolves around the other object (earth). Remember 'to revolve' means to orbit around a central point or an object. The analogy drawn by Taq is also very clear.From my understanding the only possibility is only if the earth revolves around the sun extremely slow or that the sun revolves extremely fast, so that during the sun's revolution the earth is still within its orbit (A to B in the picture). Sorry, as I was reading the last sentence of the summation of your position and I presume it to be the faith of the Bible believer. If its about the faith of those who trust in science, then I think you have been shown the evidences. I believe the Bible has many nice stories, poetic beauty, words of wisdom, etc, but the myriad of miracles are problems with science.

hi aurora, welcome to the fray.i've seen some WTF kind of stuff from ICANT in my time, but this is certainly a new one to me. i mean, if i were going to go "sun revolves around the earth for the sake pedantry" route, i would have gone much more direct. i would have pointed out that a system of two bodies technically orbit each other, or rather, a (bary)central point located between the two bodies' centers of gravity at a position proportional to their masses.of course, the sun is so incredibly massive that the barycenter of the entire solar system is always very near the sun, and sometimes inside it.

yup, our sun wobbles.

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Hi Aurora, I said: Now if you can you explain to me how you can accomplish this feat without the object that stayed on the numbers making a circle around the object that was orbiting around it I will retract my statement.I did not say revolve I said make a circle around the orbiting object.Now either the sun traverses around the Milkyway or it does not.Since the earth is in the Milkyway wouldn't the sun have to make a circle around it?If not it seems like the sun is then pushing the earth around the Milkyway.Then it could be a myth as no one has hung around 250 million years to make sure it does.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

That's what "revolve" means. No.I guess geometry is another subject beyond your intellectual grasp? Well, dragging, more like. By its gravity.

Actually, (it's off topic for this thread but I didn't know where to say it) it seems Aurora has started participation in this forum 2 months ago. It seems (s)he proposed a topic but admins missed it. Since it seemed rather interesting I think Aurora could try to repropose the topic. Even if admins reject a topic, they usually tell you why, if they didn't tell you and didn't promote it, I think it means they just missed it. (I'm not an admin myself though).Edited by Son, : No reason given.Edited by Son, : No reason given.

Hi ICANT, Please See the previous illustration again: The object (red) on the number do not make a circle around the object (blue) that was orbiting around it because the object (blue) is always moving away from the orbit of the object (red) on the number. You cannot circle an object which is constantly moving away from your orbit. Sorry ICANT, that's Worse. To make 'a circle' around the orbiting object, the orbiting object needs to be at the centre. Remember 'a circle' is the locus of all points equidistant from a central point.

No. Both are moving through the gravity well of the galaxy just as the Earth and the Moon are moving through the gravity well of the Sun. The Earth does not pull the Moon about the Sun. Both are caught in the gravity well of the Sun.

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Therefore Science has not proved God do not create the universe and existence as introduced in Genesis. to ensure that account has not been verified false.Now if I am mistaken concerning the medical proof please present it.{Spam links deleted - Adminnemooseus}Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.

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In his work English Men of Science: Their Nature and Nurture, which discussed the influence of genetics and environment on a person's development and which was originally published in 1874, Francis Galton, a second or half-cousin to Charles Darwin stated: "[Nature and nurture are] a convenient jingle of words, for it separates under two distinct heads the innumerable elements of which personality is composed. Nature is all that a man brings with himself into the world; nurture is every influence that affects him after his birth." funny photosEdited by Admin, : Spamify link.