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Message 46 of 57 (629018)
08-15-2011 7:14 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Straggler
08-15-2011 6:43 AM


Straggler writes:
On a more serious basis how can we see what words we are individually banned from writing? Are they listed in our user profile or listed as part of the bannings and suspensions or anything?
You're right, the user should have access to this information. I'll put it on the todo list for inclusion on the User Control Panel page.

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Message 47 of 57 (629029)
08-15-2011 8:32 AM
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08-15-2011 7:14 AM


Nah, it's far more fun and challenging the way it is. This method encourages liberal use of preview to see how many time you have won so far.

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Message 48 of 57 (629033)
08-15-2011 9:35 AM
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08-15-2011 8:32 AM


Checkmate
jar writes:
Nah, it's far more fun and challenging the way it is. This method encourages liberal use of preview to see how many time you have won so far.
So this is all a game and we win or lose?
Lets all play fair now! One does not need to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, after all!

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Message 49 of 57 (629035)
08-15-2011 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
08-12-2011 9:17 AM


The Devil Is in The Details
Buzsaw writes:
Far worse than ignorant is liar, unless one can, in the message, absolutely cite documentation that a deliberate lie has been posted. Liar is the most mean-spirited and judgmental attack towards a member that anyone can post. Two or three members resort to this attack with impunity.
Most of the meanspirited ****ing asterisks and lie charges are directed at minority creationist members by the few who apply them .
I understand how this hurts you. Critics would say that a man who has been exposed to as much information gleaned by the collective intelligence of humanity would be a fool to ignore such progress. The reason that we lie, according to them, is that we want reality to be a certain way and ignore the evidence that suggests that our worldview is not only flawed logically, but is a creation of our own making.
A Biblical Creationist, for example, would want to believe that God was the center of reality. They would very much want to be assured that what they were taught was true. You yourself used to call it an "alternative" belief system and asserted that science and evolutionary thought were themselves based on belief as much as your own beliefs were.
To become better critical thinkers, you or I would have to suspend our beliefs enough to get a taste of the methodology used by critical thinking to arrive at obvious secular conclusions. You chose to try and incorporate your Biblical beliefs "based on a lifetime of study" to support an alternative view of science. I, on the other hand, chose to accept that my beliefs were illogical, yet still have so far not thrown them away. A critic may say that I was willfully deceiving myself by clinging to what I wanted to be true.
I would agree except to say that neither of us really knows whether any external forces are in fact manipulating human deception.

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Message 50 of 57 (629040)
08-15-2011 10:37 AM
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08-15-2011 9:35 AM


Re: Checkmate
So this is all a game and we win or lose?
It is probably more like a game that you play just to have fun, without concern of winning or losing.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 51 of 57 (629049)
08-15-2011 11:13 AM
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08-15-2011 10:37 AM


Re: Checkmate
And in the case of the censorship at EvC, a game played against yourself.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 52 of 57 (629138)
08-16-2011 3:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
08-11-2011 7:55 PM


Those FUCKING asterix
So, to review:
What I love about the ***s is that they remove non swear words like l.i.e or s.t.u.p.i.d.
But the leave shit fuck cunt ass nigger cock santorum tits all up for grabs.
So, we don't want to offend someone by calling them a l.i.a.r, but we're okay with saying "you untruthy nigger"?
Really?
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Testing gratuitous censorship.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Undo test.

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Message 53 of 57 (629142)
08-16-2011 4:07 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Nuggin
08-16-2011 3:24 AM


Re: Those FUCKING asterix
Great, now were going to get a whole lot of search hits for people looking for Goscinny and Uderzo based Hentai.
TTFN,
WK

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Message 54 of 57 (629729)
08-19-2011 1:38 PM


Just ban everyone
Swearing isn't censored. There's nothing about swearing or language in the Forum Guidelines, but there is a rule about being civil. Behavior that causes threads to spiral out of control attracts the attention of moderators, and one of the tools moderators have for dealing with persistent behavior of this sort short of suspension is censoring the words people tend to use when exhibiting this behavior.
Apparently the other way of censoring people is by posting a comment then closing a thread so you get the last word.
The hypocrisy is not choosing to censor some words and not others, the hypocrisy is censoring some PEOPLE and not others.
If person A says "that's a l.i.e." and you don't censor them, then why the fuck is person B censored when trying to explain why it isn't "a ***"?
If you want to make some words absolutely forbidden, then make them forbidden to all. If you want to ban people, then be willing to ban ANYONE who violates a rule, not just the people you disagree with.
If you want to delete someone's post because you don't like what they have to say, then delete all similar posts, or just delete the whole thread.
If you want the last word in every conversation, just ban everyone and post only what you want.
Pretending that you are trying to organize some sort of "civil debate" while arbitrarily banning/censoring/deleting certain people and not others is just a joke.
Edited by Nuggin, : No reason given.

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Message 55 of 57 (629732)
08-19-2011 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Nuggin
08-19-2011 1:38 PM


Re: Just ban everyone
Nuggin writes:
Apparently the other way of censoring people is by posting a comment then closing a thread so you get the last word.
I began my message like this, which does not constitute censoring:
Admin writes:
This is already being discussed over at Those ****ing Asterisks, but I'll say a few words and you can respond over there.
As to the rest of your message about preferring suspension to word censoring, I'll clear out your censored word list and try to remember that you prefer suspension.
Edited by Admin, : Add sig.

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Message 56 of 57 (629755)
08-19-2011 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Admin
08-19-2011 1:52 PM


Re: Just ban everyone
As to the rest of your message about preferring suspension to word censoring, I'll clear out your censored word list and try to remember that you prefer suspension.
If you would kindly arrange for me to be able to mention lyrics and lychees and Lysistrata, I shall take my chances on you suspending me if I do so.
Edited by Admin, : Voila!

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Message 57 of 57 (629757)
08-19-2011 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Dr Adequate
08-19-2011 6:50 PM


Re: Just ban everyone
A 14, a 7, a 9 and lychees.
TTFN,
WK

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