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Author Topic:   What space is the Universe occupying? A Great Discussion between SR71 and NosyNed
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Message 1 of 7 (322188)
06-16-2006 10:31 AM

A Great Discussion between SR71 and NosyNed

I started to ask this question yesterday in chat, but never finished the discussion. I'd like it if yall could help me understand what space the Universe is occupying :)

Edited by AdminJar, : Add Great Discussion notice

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Message 2 of 7 (322198)
06-16-2006 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by SR71
06-16-2006 10:31 AM

A good question but not one I'm sure you have the basics to understand
How about this. Can I try to see if one of our cosmologists would mentor you in a one on one discussion? I'd ask for a volunteer from one of them and then set the two of you up in the Great Debate forum to discuss this.

If that is okay, just reply here.

AbE: NosyNed has voluteered to discuss this with you if you want.

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    Message 3 of 7 (322339)
    06-16-2006 3:12 PM

    That would be great! I understand that I don't have the basics I need... I guess it would have been a little over my head, but I was hoping someone would cater to that, lol. Thanks Jar

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    Message 4 of 7 (322376)
    06-16-2006 4:23 PM
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    06-16-2006 3:12 PM

    Okay, moving to a Great Discussion with just you and Ned

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    Message 5 of 7 (322377)
    06-16-2006 4:23 PM

    Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

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    Message 6 of 7 (322391)
    06-16-2006 5:41 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by SR71
    06-16-2006 10:31 AM

    Some Caveats
    Hi SR,

    This is going to take some time. For one thing I'm out of town until next week and will only have limited time to work on this. For another I want to move pretty slowly so that it doesn't get confusing. Let me know what you think about that.

    Now, I want you to remember some other things too:

    1) I am not a cosmololgist or a "real" physicist. I happen to have a degree (only BSc level) in physicts but what I learned then has little to do with this question and I've forgotten what I learned so the degree can be discounted completely. That is, I'm not an expert.

    2) This is a really, really difficult conceptual area. What we learned in the 20th century is that the universe is absolutely, definitely NOT how we preceive it. Our perceptions are geared to working in the environment we live in and just accurate enough to allow us to survive. However,the actual underlying facts are NOT like we think they are.

    3) At some point both you are I are going to have to take some answers "on faith". We can't do the math which is part of the support for what we understand to be "true" about the universe. I'll try to give you some ideas of which parts I understand to be more solid and which are more speculative.

    4) I hope that others can start a thread separate from this one to jump in and try to correct any major errors I make. I'll then attempt to clarify what is meant or where I was wrong.

    5) Ask, ask, and ask. Don't let things go by that you don't understand. But remember that you will NOT be comfortable with this even if you do get some tenuous grasp of it. It is weird, strange odd and sounds ridiculous. That is, like it or not, the way things are.

    I'll jump back in here in awhile (I hope later today with some beginning). In the meantime if you would post as much detail as you can about what you do understand and what you have heard it might help me to guess what we should talk about.

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