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Dr Adequate
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Message 193 of 284 (627461)
08-02-2011 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 2:25 PM


What about this one?
You will have to make your question more explicit.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 201 of 284 (627478)
08-02-2011 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 2:57 PM


I thought we were just playing "who gets in the last word". It seems like all your responses have been reduced to "and that one" over and over again.
I figured you had given up on communication and just wanted attention.
Was any of that sincere?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 202 of 284 (627479)
08-02-2011 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 3:01 PM


If a straight guy were to spend three days posting messages about how he didn't want attention, then HELL YES I WOULD.
Someone who didn't want attention wouldn't be posting.
And after I directly quoted it in my response. Funny how hard it is for you to find it.
This debate NEVER had integrity.
It was 4 DAYS of gay rape jokes before one or more of the gays decided that it was important to inform the "straight boy" that his opinion didn't count.
From there it was me pointing out that the self described bi guys wanted attention and them demanding that attention be paid.
You can claim it was me running the train off the rails, but I'm the one that WALKED AWAY when it was all about rape.
How about that one?
I've asked you nicely, would you please highlight those parts of your posts that you believe to be true? Thank you.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 208 of 284 (627487)
08-02-2011 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 3:13 PM


Okay.
None of that was highlighted.
Was the omission intentional, or do you just not know how to do it?
Now, could you offer evidence of the following:
No: the bits where I'm required to know what you're thinking defeated me. After all, we know that we don't know that even after you've ostensibly told us.
As to the remaining factual inaccuracies and false implications of your post, I can see that they are there, but what I can't know is if you know that they're false, which is what I'm trying to find out.
After all, you are essentially claiming that nothing that I am posting is believable ...
Well the trouble is that you "essentially" claimed that when you claimed to be trolling. This has left you with what is called a "credibility gap". Even if you made some unassailably factual statement such as that today is Tuesday, there would still remain the suspicion that you had done so under the impression that it was Monday.
... and demanding that I repeat every post multiple times.
As for repeating your posts, you could always say which bits are sincere when you originally post them. Of course, people might not believe you, so you're in a bit of a quandary. Maybe you shouldn't have started trolling in the first place.
Maybe you would BOTHER to actually provide something to the debate apart from insults.
Lately my contribution has been to ask you to distinguish between cases where you are, or are not, being sincere, and I have been perfectly courteous in doing so.
Unless and until you do that, it is not clear in what sense there can be a debate. People don't usually bring along their own straw men, and it is hard to know how to respond to someone who may be just pretending to be wrong rather than actually being wrong. They look exactly the same from where I'm sitting.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 210 of 284 (627490)
08-02-2011 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 3:17 PM


Re: Closet bisexuals.
I honestly don't care if you believe me or not.
Do you honestly honestly not care?
Ah well, since you're repeating the same sort of nonsense you came out with during the period when by your own admission you were trolling, the most likely explanation is that you still are.
If you come up with something new, that might be an indication that you've stopped, or merely a sign that you've become bored of your own capacity to generate tedium.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 263 of 284 (627600)
08-02-2011 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 10:53 PM


Re: moving towards some understanding
And if you had said that 4 days earlier, there wouldn't have been a problem.
But instead you and Dr A and one or two others jumped on the "straight guys don't get to have an opinion" part of the thread. Coming to the defensive or, or joining sides with, the drunk gay guy who voiced this opinion.
So I fought back because I _always_ fight back when someone makes this sort of a statement.
I shouldn't have to fuck a guy in the ass to have an opinion about whether or not that person has the right to get married.
* sighs deeply *
Modulous writes:
But claiming that bisexuals are homosexuals who have sex with women because they are 'too full of themselves' to limit their options is sometimes known as bisexual erasure.
Not Modulous writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
Dr Adequate writes:
I cannot speak for Jaderis, but to speak for myself I wonder if it has crossed your mind that perhaps your telepathic link with bisexuals is less than perfect?
Not Dr Adequate writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
hooah212002 writes:
My point is: people who claim bi-sexuality are just that: bi-sexual. No more, no less. They enjoy both sexes. Whether it's a phase or not is up to them, but at the time they claim to be bi-sexual, they are bi-sexual.
Not hooah212002 writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
fearandloathing writes:
I guess I am confused to what you really think, is it either your homosexual or not, is this your belief?
If so then you are way off base, human sexuality cannot/should not be limited to only a gay or not view point anymore than it would be correct to say either you are Caucasian or not.
Not fearandloathing writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
cavediver writes:
Utterly bizarre. Perhaps this is how YOU define gay, but I'm fairly sure that the rest of the world doesn't.
Not cavediver writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
Straggler writes:
I don't see how anyone can tell anyone else who they do or don't find sexually attractive. If after years of knowing who you are you say with confidence that you are geuinely attracted to both men and women how the hell can anyone else tell you that you aren't really bisexual?
Not Straggler writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
Trae writes:
If you’re going to apply labels they should be useful. Bisexual tells something about someone’s orientation. Homosexual who sleeps with woman does not convey the same information and is unwieldy. Arguable it doesn’t even describe a bisexual.
Not Trae writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.
You, yourself, on another thread writes:
There is a WIDE range of sexuality out there.
It's not gay/straight. It's not gay/bi/straight.
It's a vast scope.
Not you, yourself, on another thread writes:
Straight guys don't get to have an opinion.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 266 of 284 (627608)
08-03-2011 1:04 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by Chuck77
08-03-2011 12:51 AM


Re: Dog pile x2
If he was an admitted gay, no one would be questioning his opinion as they feel he would have a right to it.
You too seem to be lacking in telepathic abilities.
How is his opinion deserve so much response?
Dear me, did a self-confessed troll get a response? Surely that's the objective.
And, as CS has demonstrated, it was not, in fact, his opinion.
It's not Nuggin who is going off the deep end here, it is everyone else who is taking offense to his (at one point) simple opinion thay Bi-guys are a subset of gays.
That was not in fact what he started off saying.
So what? Why so defensive?
If, in plain English, you mean "why disagree with someone who's wrong?" I think that that's a question that answers itself.
Here's an idea. TRY to respect his opinion and im sure he'll respect yours and not feel the need to fend off every attack that comes his way.
What does it mean to "respect" his "opinion"? Do you mean people should have agreed with it? He doesn't agree with it himself.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 271 of 284 (627615)
08-03-2011 1:32 AM
Reply to: Message 267 by Chuck77
08-03-2011 1:12 AM


Are you a trained expert on gays or Bi men?
I await nuggin's outraged condemnation of you with unbated breath.

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