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tesla
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Message 1 of 4 (619584)
06-10-2011 1:49 PM


I would like to discuss an article:
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"The topic of Life after death raises disreputable connotations of past-life regression and haunted houses, but there are a large number of people in the world who believe in some form of persistence of the individual soul after life ends. Clearly this is an important question, one of the most important ones we can possibly think of in terms of relevance to human life. If science has something to say about, we should all be interested in hearing."
The article finishes:
"There’s no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work. "
It seems more than one person believes understanding consciousness is the key to understanding "God" and "Soul", and that it is a worthwhile pursuit.
The majority of the article simply points out the impossibility of the task, but the finished statement reveals where to start.
"Understanding consciousness"
Discussion?
Edited by tesla, : spacing

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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06-11-2011 6:40 AM
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06-10-2011 1:49 PM


Hi Tesla,
I normally stay out of the religious threads. Did you intend this to be a religious or a science topic?
If science, then discussing consciousness is fine, but the title needs to be changed unless you can clarify the connection between consciousness, physics and the soul (that is, the soul as a scientific concept).
--Percy

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06-11-2011 2:06 PM
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That was the title of the article. It is to be a discussion of the validity of the posters analysis that consciousness and the soul not being understood, is the reason no research can be accomplished.
It appears the article is suggesting that when consciousness is understood then we will understand how to study God and soul in a scientific fashion.
What I want to point out, is that not doing extensive research into data transference and cognitive functions of the mind: We will slow the possibility that can happen.
And then as a solution to gaining the funding for an all-out huge operation towards that end: would be to be honest with potentials discoveries about ourselves that understanding consciousness could unlock and explain.
The mystery of God understood.
Soul demystified.
psychic abilities enhancement’s possible?
But also: cure for epilepsy? Alzheimer’s?
Now it would be a sign of lack of belief if religious orders did not honestly believe God is real in a real sense. Therefore: learning knowledge about God is the most important thing in life.
The Books they are reading were written by people who actually experienced God and recorded it. Those recorders did not read a book to learn more about god. They looked for God around them in reality (and according to the text: found it.)
So the religious community could have science attempting to discover the same things they want to discover most of all, and they should fund it.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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Hi Tesla,
I'm afraid I didn't understand most of that, but the mentions of God and soul make me think this is better as a religious thread, so I'll leave it for someone else to promote.

--Percy
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