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BMG
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Message 1 of 2 (618194)
06-02-2011 1:30 AM


An Inquiry
I am a lucid dreamer, a sleep talker, and I suffer from Rapid Eye Movement behavior disorder. Sometimes I wake up while in the middle of a conversation, other times I finish a conversation, awake, and remember distinctly having had the conversation, and can recall many portions of it. Sometimes I act out what occurs in my dream. For instance, I may "strike" at something while dreaming only to wake up from my arm swinging into thin air, or wake from having my arm's movement hindered by my comforter or blanket.
Strange, I know. I did a little research, and found that what I suffer from matches with what is called REMBD. Our bodies, during REM sleep, usually enter a state of atonia, or paralysis. Our brains are still active, as well as our ability to breathe, but much of our body is inactive. This is to prevent, I believe, our bodies from acting out during dreaming, to prevent injury. Digging a little deeper, I discovered that recent research studies are suggesting a possible correlation between REMBD and neurodegenerative disorders, such as Parkinson's Disease, dementia without parkonsinism, and multiple system atrophy. (Yes, correlation does not necessarily mean causation...)
Source
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We describe demographic, clinical, laboratory and aetiological findings in 93 consecutive patients with rapid eye movement (REM) sleep behaviour disorder (RBD), which consists of excessive motor activity during dreaming in association with loss of skeletal muscle atonia of REM sleep...There is a strong relationship to neurodegenerative disease, especially Parkinson's disease, multiple system atrophy and dementia, and neurologists should explore the possibility of RBD in patients with these conditions. RBD symptoms may be the first manifestations of these disorders and careful follow-up is needed.
A second source that would support such a correlation is found Here
quote:
July 29, 2010 Idiopathic rapid eye movement sleep behavior disorder (RBD) may be the initial manifestation of the synucleinopathies Parkinson's disease (PD), dementia with Lewy bodies (DLB), and multiple system atrophy (MSA), occurring some 50 years before the neurodegenerative syndrome clinically manifests, a new study suggests.
Yet this second source was not too convincing, for of the 550 patients that had RBD, only 27 (4.9%) met the criterion of REMBD that
quote:
...predat[ed] by more than 15 years the onset of PD, PD dementia (PDD), DLB, or MSA.
I am likely misunderstanding this second study, as well as the first study, yet this is why I bring this issue to EVC. I am fascinated, and only a little frightened, by the fact that I may be showing symptoms of neurodegenerative disorders decades prior to what are commonly established symptoms of such diseases. I am 28 years old.
If anyone has any greater understanding of this subject, I kindly ask that they help me gain a firmer grasp of it, for I am fascinated with neurology; not to mention there are countless people on other message forums that write of horrifying experiences with REMBD, and reading their messages you cannot help but feel gripped by their fear.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Mods, please place this wherever you feel is best.
(P.S. The soonest I can reply to messages will be limited to between 9pm-10pm for the next three days, for I'll be at work. Please do not take a delayed response from me as ignoring anyone.)
Edited by BMG, : No reason given.
Edited by BMG, : Grammar

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06-02-2011 6:15 AM


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