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Author Topic:   If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
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Message 2 of 231 (615256)
05-11-2011 3:54 AM
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05-10-2011 9:34 AM


Reference please, etc.
...I did a little research. If our sun is second, or third generation...
A reference link to support that, please.
...does this not negate the whole "let there be light" narrative. The fact that our sun actually formed from a supernova of a previous sun means we have already had light.
As I see it, if anything, it gives creationists an out to explain how God created light 2 days (wasn't it?) before the creation of the (current) sun. That light could have been from the previous sun version.
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05-11-2011 7:54 PM
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05-11-2011 10:36 AM


Re: Reference please, etc.
You may be right about the Genesis narrative. I have read through it and despite reading through, I cannot find mention of light 2 days before the creation of the sun. I suppose, as with all religious texts, the interpretation can be warped to fit whatever evidence is displayed.
Creates light:
quote:
Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light, and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. And there was evening, and there was morningthe first day.
Creates sun and moon:
quote:
Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth. And it was so. 16 God made two great lightsthe greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morningthe fourth day.
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I misguessed - God created light 3 days before creating the sun.
Sorry I didn't want to just produce a post with a load of links on it, as I find those a little wearing.
Don't want a load of links, but 1 or 2 is nice, and is (more or less) called for by forum rule 4:
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Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
Without a reference/link, it's a bare assertion.
I could have let you get away with not having a reference/link, but such are desirable.
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05-12-2011 11:26 PM


All messages should have something to do with the sun's origins
This topic was probably exceptionally doomed to being a disaster area, but shall we take a stab at keeping it in the vicinity of the original topic theme?
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Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Typo in subtitle.

  
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