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Topic: The Movie Paranormal Activity
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 156 of 285 (613711)
04-26-2011 8:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 155 by Tram law
04-26-2011 8:32 PM
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Tram law writes: Well, I'm going to sum this thread up as; "there is no amount of photographic or video evidence that skeptics will accept because each and every single one of them absolutely has to be a hoax because many of them are." Thank you for your responses gentlemen. But there never has been any photographic or video evidence, so why would we suddenly now think there might be.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 158 of 285 (613722)
04-26-2011 9:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 157 by Tram law
04-26-2011 9:07 PM
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Law of averages? Are you freaking kidding me? There has never , ever been any photographic or video evidence of the supernatural and you think the law of averages will make it be true so me day? You do realize the law of averages isn't a real law. It isn't even correct. I will let wiki explain.
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The law of averages is a lay term used to express a belief that outcomes of a random event will "even out" within a small sample. As invoked in everyday life, the "law" usually reflects bad statistics or wishful thinking rather than any mathematical principle. While there is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample, the law of averages typically assumes that unnatural short-term "balance" must occur.[1] Typical applications of the law also generally assume no bias in the underlying probability distribution, which is frequently at odds with the empirical evidence.
Source If something has never existed why would it suddenly exist?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 196 of 285 (614338)
05-03-2011 4:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 195 by jar
05-03-2011 4:13 PM
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Folders
I agree with you, I think. I too have no paranormal or supernatural folder. I have an unexplained folder. If I had evidence of the paranormal or the supernatural I might add a folder. I am very skeptical of any evidence being presented. What most people probably have in there paranormal/supernatural folder is in my unexplained folder. The evidence must show it is supernatural, not that it might not be natural. I know there are fictional supernatural characters, but they are fiction so that leaves them out. I can imagine a supernatural character, but that does not put them in a paranormal or supernatural folder, that puts them in the fiction folder. I have no reason to think there could be anything supernatural or paranormal. Therefore, I have no use for a folder for them.Fold Edited by Theodoric, : subtitle
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 201 of 285 (614354)
05-03-2011 6:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 198 by Modulous
05-03-2011 4:50 PM
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Re: filing system error
Paranormal should be a subfolder within your unexplained folder. I disagree. There are many unexplained things, but there is no reason to think any of them are supernatural or paranormal. Ghosts are just an explanation people use to explain the unexplainable. There is no reason to think ghosts exist. Ghost are a fiction to explain the unexplainable. The popular opinion is that ghosts are a paranormal entity, but there is no reason to really think there are ghost. The phenomena attributed them are either explainable or unexplainable due to a lack of data.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 210 of 285 (614367)
05-03-2011 7:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 203 by Modulous
05-03-2011 7:10 PM
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Re: filing system error
Ghosts are a paranormal entity. We may be talking past each other. I do not have any reason to think there is anything paranormal. Ghosts are fiction. Until there is some evidence of any sort they are fiction. Maybe that is paranormal. In my way of thinking giving them the label paranormal is giving some credence to the concept.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 211 of 285 (614368)
05-03-2011 7:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 208 by jar
05-03-2011 7:30 PM
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Re: filing system error
I can't imagine evidence of real ghosts. I am with you. Any evidence of the paranormal or supernatural would fundamentally alter existence. We would have to question everything we thought we knew.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 213 of 285 (614372)
05-03-2011 8:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 212 by jar
05-03-2011 7:55 PM
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Re: filing system error
Any evidence I can imagine in such a scenario would simply show that ghosts are not at all what we thought they were and just something very normal and natural; strange maybe, unusual very likely, but just more natural stuff. In all situations where ghosts have been claimed and the claim has been investigated, either it was something normal or nothing at all was found. Certainly nothing paranormal.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 217 of 285 (614420)
05-04-2011 8:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 215 by Modulous
05-03-2011 10:06 PM
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Re: filing system error
Yes I agree we have been talking past each other. Yes I can conceive a hypothetical experience that would change my mind. But that does not change the fact that ghosts are not unexplained. They are fiction.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 227 of 285 (614460)
05-04-2011 12:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 225 by Tram law
05-04-2011 11:49 AM
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Re: filing system error
Tram law writes: My friend can't imagine the evidence for evolution either, so according to him there can't be any evolution. And according to him, he and only he has all the answers to evolution, and those answers are it can't be true under any circumstances because he can't understand or imagine it. So, wouldn't this be very poor reasoning? And wouldn't this be denial? Evolution and ghosts are in no way comparable. There is scientific evidence for evolution, there is no evidence for ghosts. Your friend is delusional. Jar seems to have an extremely literal view of things.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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