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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
I posted the last message imo, significant to my argument before browsing Admin's message upstream.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. |
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: I haven't seen these drainage channels. Perhaps you could actually provide evidence rather than claiming it exists ? However since it would be disingenuous or naive in the extreme to jump from a minor delta to a massive sandbank present at the right time - and you've clearly no reasonable way of bridging that gap - it appears that the delta issue is moot.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK writes: quote: I haven't seen these drainage channels. Perhaps you could actually provide evidence rather than claiming it exists ? However since it would be disingenuous or naive in the extreme to jump from a minor delta to a massive sandbank present at the right time - and you've clearly no reasonable way of bridging that gap - it appears that the delta issue is moot. Your good bud, Jar, inadvertently cited it in Message 80. Just double click on Nuweiba Beach until you get what you want. View Larger Map Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Buzsaw writes: LOL. Apparently, some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta. What evidence do you have that "some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta"? The evidence happens to be, partially, in your Message 80. This shows that Nuweiba is a delta. However, the insignificant flow of the wadi is evident that the delta was likely formed catastrophically and not by the wadi. Edited by Buzsaw, : fix link BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Buzsaw writes: LOL. Apparently, some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta. What evidence do you have that "some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta"? The evidence happens to be, partially, in your [msg=580901]. This shows that Nuweiba is a delta. However, the insignificant flow of the wadi is evident that the delta was likely formed catastrophically and not by the wadi. Sorry but where is the evidence that it was formed by a catastrophe? And remember you cannot use the Biblical Flood since that did not happen. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Buzsaw writes: LOL. Apparently, some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta. What evidence do you have that "some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta"? The evidence happens to be, partially, in your [msg=580901]. This shows that Nuweiba is a delta. However, the insignificant flow of the wadi is evident that the delta was likely formed catastrophically and not by the wadi. Sorry but where is the evidence that it was formed by a catastrophe? And remember you cannot use the Biblical Flood since that did not happen. Some credentialed scientists would take issue with you on that count. I see Nuweiba as supportive to the catastrophic Biblical flood, more so than to a relative uniformitarion view. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Nuweiba writes:
There's a superficial resemblence to a delta. Where's the evidence that it's composed of sediment from the wadi? And what distinguishes Nuweiba from similar-looking formations on the coast of the Gulf - e.g. at Nabq and Dahab? This shows that Nuweiba is a delta. If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Buzsaw writes: LOL. Apparently, some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta. What evidence do you have that "some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta"? The evidence happens to be, partially, in your [msg=580901]. This shows that Nuweiba is a delta. However, the insignificant flow of the wadi is evident that the delta was likely formed catastrophically and not by the wadi. Sorry but where is the evidence that it was formed by a catastrophe? And remember you cannot use the Biblical Flood since that did not happen. Some credentialed scientists would take issue with you on that count. I see Nuweiba as supportive to the catastrophic Biblical flood, more so than to a relative uniformitarion view. It is irrelevant if they disagree, it is a fact and they would simply be wrong. BUT...evidence Buz, evidence. Where is the evidence that it was from a catastrophic event? Evidence Buz. Evidence. Honestly Buz you cannot even produce a model that the Flood would cause that. Evidence. AbE: and your imaginary sand bar evidence as well. Evidence Buz. Edited by jar, : AbE: Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Still don't see a delta. Where is the river that would cause a delta? More importantly, even if this was a delta, how does this provide evidence for your "sand bar"?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Theodoric writes: Still don't see a delta. Where is the river that would cause a delta? More importantly, even if this was a delta, how does this provide evidence for your "sand bar"? If you look you can see a city and roads and such sitting right in the middle of what Buz calls a delta. And the 'river' if you look is actually a frikken highway. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7
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Buzsaw writes: Some credentialed scientists would take issue with you on that count. I see Nuweiba as supportive to the catastrophic Biblical flood, more so than to a relative uniformitarion view. By raising new unevidenced claims you are distracting attention from your earlier unevidenced claims. One unevidenced claim at a time. When the time comes I will ask you to describe the evidence these "credentialed scientists" used to conclude that Nuweiba was formed catastrophically. I have a number of times requested your evidence that there was a sandbar off the coast of Nuweiba at the time of the Exodus. Please describe this evidence now. Once you've described this evidence and it has been discussed we can move on to your other claims. You are too easily distracted by the other participants. You can respond to them all you like and that's fine, but you must also respond to my request for the evidence of a sand bar off Nuweiba. Because I've asked for this evidence so many times now I'm going to ask you to respond to this request before you respond to anything else.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
From message 80:
View Larger Map If you look you can see a city and roads and such sitting right in the middle of what Buz calls a delta. Not unlike what we refer to as "New Orleans"?
And the 'river' if you look is actually a frikken highway. Running up what appears to be a river valley (look at the "Ter" view). The lightest area appears to be modern river flood plain confined by levees. I'd buy it as being a delta. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add the "Ter" part.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Minnemooseus writes: From message 80: View Larger Map If you look you can see a city and roads and such sitting right in the middle of what Buz calls a delta. Not unlike what we refer to as "New Orleans"?
And the 'river' if you look is actually a frikken highway. Running up what appears to be a river valley. The lightest area appears to be modern river flood plain confined by levees. I'd buy it as being a delta. Moose Not at all like New Orleans. There are no signs I can see of silt or silt build up, rather desert sand and rock. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: Nuweiba - Wikipedia And what would you call a river flood plain located where the river flows into the sea? I'd call it a delta.
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EvC Forum: Geology Glossary
There are no signs I can see of silt or silt build up... Zoom in more. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add delta definition.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Admin writes: Buzsaw writes: Some credentialed scientists would take issue with you on that count. I see Nuweiba as supportive to the catastrophic Biblical flood, more so than to a relative uniformitarion view. By raising new unevidenced claims you are distracting attention from your earlier unevidenced claims. One unevidenced claim at a time. When the time comes I will ask you to describe the evidence these "credentialed scientists" used to conclude that Nuweiba was formed catastrophically. I have a number of times requested your evidence that there was a sandbar off the coast of Nuweiba at the time of the Exodus. Please describe this evidence now. Once you've described this evidence and it has been discussed we can move on to your other claims. You are too easily distracted by the other participants. You can respond to them all you like and that's fine, but you must also respond to my request for the evidence of a sand bar off Nuweiba. Because I've asked for this evidence so many times now I'm going to ask you to respond to this request before you respond to anything else. Admin, I'm assuming it's OK to respond directly on this count. After checking the Online Dictionary definition I see my usage of the term, sandbar was incorrect.
quote: As for the scientists, I have attended sessions of two of them here in upstate NY. Both of the scientists were once avid evolutionists. It's been a while but I'll try to get up their names and credentials. There are some at ICR and other sources, whether anyone here cares to admit it or not. I have just began my search. Then there's this Science Daily ...team, headed by EcoOcean's Andreas Weil and Prof. Sven Beer of Tel Aviv University,.. quote: Admittedly, they don't necessarily view this as extensive as the Biblical account, but for sure, their work is supportive to the Noaic Flood. Nobody has hard empirical evidence about the flood details. Imo, cites such as Nuweiba are just another of many supporting corroborative evidences of the Biblical flood. Edited by Buzsaw, : Correct a word and forgot spell check BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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