Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?

Using that argument would tend to refute the Nuweiba location wouldn't it?Sea floor geography shows a steep descent into a deep trough.Even when dried up, no chariot force would have been able to negotiate the terrain, therefore no chariots could have been trapped when the walls of water broke.Your 'explanation' about a landbrdge is a hypothesis not supported by either surrounding topography, hydrography or biblical scripture.I fail to see why Nuweiba is so important to you as it might be to Wyatt. There are a number of other more believable sites where the Israelites could have crossed which are shallower.

I don't think there is any great mystery about that. Buzsaw wants the crossing to be where Wyatt claims to have made his finds, because those finds are essentially all of physical evidence anyone has even alleged.

No offense, but I would rather Buzz explain his own motives.I fail to see why Buzz attaches so much importance to Wyatt's 'evidence' when so few people, including other Christians and Jews, reject it.From a completely religious perspective this physical evidence is unimportant.In fact the historicity of the Exodus itself is unimportant.
What is important is the story of God's relationship with the Israelites, His chosen people, His children.It seems that the minutae of the OT is not as important as its prophesies or its underlying account of the relationship of God with humanity.

Buzsaw is free to respond regardless of whether I do or not. How am I supposed to know that I'm not allowed to opine on things you post in an open forum?In any event, I doubt Buz would word things as I have. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Can we agree that Nuweiba beach is essentially a large delta formed from the Wadi Waki and the canyon (Colored Canyon?) which it emerges from?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Do you have evidence that it is ?

No one doubts Nuweiba Beach exists. If all you're asking is whether it is conceded that Nuweiba Beach exists then since a quick check of Google Maps in satellite mode clearly shows a large sandy extension into the Gulf of Aqaba there can be no doubt that it exists.Unless it is somehow important to your case that a river be responsible for for the formation of Nuweiba Beach I suggest you drop the parts about Nuweiba Beach being a river delta. By the way, Wikipedia, Google and Google maps searches did not find Wadi Waki.What you were actually requested to provide is the evidence that a sandbar existed at Nuweiba Beach during the time of the Exodus.You were also asked to provide evidence that your choice for Mount Sinai has a burnt top unlike other mountains in the region.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

Wiki river delta search as well as observing an aerial view of Nuweiba Beach, appears to indicate that this is a canyon/wadi delta. An aerial view also shows that there is still just enough water via the wadi to leave drainage ridges on the delta, but not enough to build significantly on it.This is relative to in that the Noaic Flood and the Exodus are like two rooms of a house that stand or fall together if the foundation crumbles. Thus, my argument rests on assumption of a Noaic flood.The delta, which fits the description, as observed, of a delta being formed at some time from the significantly long and large canyon/valley.The Biblical account of the Exodus event, according to Usher, happened about a thousand years after the Noaic flood. My position is that the Noaic flood formed Nuweiba delta. Given the very small amount of water which the wadi would have afforded, it makes sense that it was relatively suddenly formed by some catastrophe.The flood would have deposited large material nearest to the Egyptian side of Aqaba and the finer sediment would have protruded out into the gulf. The far end of the delta would have not been hardened in a mere millennium.Likely, the wall of sea would have been backed up far enough so as to not seep into and soften the pathway for the large number of Israelites, with their animals, etc and for the chariots to enter. Thus, when the wall was suddenly released, there would have been significant erosion, primarily in the softer sediment at the far end of the delta. Once that gave away, the flow of the return would have funneled into that area of the delta, causing the sharp drop off, observed, at the delta edge and the deepened channel.Imo, this delta is not only supportive to the Exodus, but to the Noaic flood as well.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

So why are you still here, Buz? The Fludde and the Exodus have each been debunked about 500 times at EvC. So now you are saying that either of them being debunked would have been plenty?

So if the flood is disproven, then the exodus would be as well?So you are basing the reliability of an unfathomably unlikely event on the assumption of a vastly more unfathomably unlikely event?

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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

Hi Buz,The pattern you have been exhibiting in this thread is that you first post messages like this last one, and then when people reply asking for your evidence you respond that you've already posted your "corroborating evidence supportive to your hypotheses."The problem I'm trying to address is that there's never any evidence in any of your posts, including this one.Please provide your evidence that there was a sandbar during the time of Exodus off the coast at Nuweiba.Please provide your evidence that your chosen site for Mount Sinai has a blackened top unlike other mountains in the region.These are simple requests. Please fulfill these requests before going off in other directions.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

So essentially your only evidence is your personal impression - an opinion I do not share. Your idea that Noah's flood must have somehow placed a massive sandbar there in that specific spot is simply wild speculation. Even if we ignored the fact that there was no such flood, there is still no reason why it should create your hypothetical sandbar.I'm going to need something more than a questionable personal opinion before I accept that Nuweiba beach is a delta. And I don't find the idea of a magic flood that does whatever Buzsaw wants at all plausible.

The Biblical Flood has been absolutely refuted and so trying to use that as yet another unsupported assertion is just plain silly.Now, is there any evidence that there was a sand bar at that location?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Paul, it would be either disingenuous and/or naive to deny that Nuweiba Beach is a delta, given the fan shaped topography, common to deltas and the bird-foot like drainage beds protruding from the wadi to the gulf to this day.LOL. Apparently, some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

What evidence do you have that "some catastrophe created the fan shaped delta"?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!