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fearandloathing
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Message 5 of 30 (611716)
04-10-2011 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tram law
04-10-2011 7:45 AM


Isaac Asimov
I like some sci-fi myself, but not the star trek stuff so much.
If you enjoy reading I would recommend you try some Isaac Asimov if you havent already, Foundation series of books is a good one in my opinion. He is not every ones cup of tea, If you enjoyed the movie I Robot then you might enjoy some of his other works as well.
I would also say read some H.G. Wells also, some sci-fi is much better when read in my opinion.
Read all 4 of the 2001 A Space Odyssey series, 2010, 2061, 3001.
Fahrenheit 451, War of the Worlds, The time Machine
There is so many others....
BTW if you havent seen the movie "Sunshine', 2007 british movie, check it out, I liked it.
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Message 10 of 30 (611729)
04-10-2011 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by arachnophilia
04-10-2011 4:47 PM


Re: "sunshine"
arachnophilia writes:
fearandloathing writes:
BTW if you havent seen the movie "Sunshine', 2007 british movie, check it out, I liked it.
i see "sunshine" as a movie about human stupidity.
pretty much everything that happens in the movie is the result of someone doing something really, really dumb.
for starters, they need a crew of seven to hit a target like the sun. i think i could program a 386 to hit the sun. I'm not even sure i'd need a computer to do it. the sun is the larget, most massive target in the solar system by far. all you'd have to do to hit it is make sure you don't fall into orbit with it or anything else. and that's pretty easy: fire your rocket so it goes outside the ecliptic plane, and then have it turn toward the sun. why they need people on this mission in the first place, i don't know.
but the one that really gets me, every time i watch this movie, is when they get trapped on the Icarus 1, and have to get back to the icarus 2 with only one spacesuit. so they fire capa in the suit, and two other guys, out of the airlock, and leave one behind to die. why not fire the other three out of the airlock, and then slowly depressurize the ship, and the guy with the suit can take his sweet time getting back?
LOL...you are right, the science behind it is way off too.
I pick apart war movies like you just did with Sunshine, but I still enjoyed it, although if I see it a few times I will pick it apart. Also seems like an alarm shoulda let them Know that the shield was going to be out of alignment, but I missed the very beginning and have only caught it on cable once.

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fearandloathing
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Message 16 of 30 (611856)
04-11-2011 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Briterican
04-11-2011 3:34 PM


Re: Sci-fi failures
Briterican writes:
ringo writes:
What I find interesting is where science fiction writers really miss the boat with out-of-date technology.
Yes. It's fun to look at some of the older sci-fi stuff (you don't even have to go very far back) to notice things like cathode ray tubes in what is meant to be the year 2500 or some such. I was just watching "Alien" the other night and the graphics technology presented is nowhere near what we have now, much less what we would have at a time when we have giant mining vessels travelling to other worlds (aka the Nostromo).
I am fascinated with the things that sci-fi has either consistently overestimated (flying cars, bases on the moon and mars) or almost completely overlooked ... the ONLY example that comes to mind immediately on that second point is the internet...
Although I'm sure there are other examples of older sci-fi predicting the internet (or some similar planet-wide information sharing technology), the ONLY example of such that I can think of is A Logic Named Joe - Wikipedia - from the March 1946 edition of Astounding Science Fiction - and adapted into a radio play on the brilliant (albeit dated) old-time-radio programme "X-Minus 1". It imagined a calculating machine that could be asked any question and it would give an answer. Of course the controversy came when someone asked it for advice on killing someone and it responded with a poison formula or something like that... my memory fails me.
If anyone has examples of pre-1960's sci-fi that predicted the internet, I'd love to give it a read.
Isaac Asimov's "Foundation" series, If I remember correctly does, on an even larger scale, an intergalactic interconnectivity. Much or it was written in the 40's
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fearandloathing
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Message 18 of 30 (611858)
04-11-2011 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by frako
04-11-2011 3:55 PM


frako writes:
well some writers do hit the nail on the head, one of the early bond movies had a GPS in his car. So did kit in knight rider. Oh and while weare by kit self driving cars are being invented now. The un invasive medical scanners from star treck well magnetic imaging comes to mind used worldwide not that portable as of yet tough
George Orwell wrote a book about a world where people are being watched by others on telescreens and nobody knows when and where tghey are being watched sound familiar cameras everywhere big brother is always watching
someone said for predictions of the Internet well i think mark twain did it 100 years ago.
Twain sort of did, he envisioned a global telephone type network.

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Message 28 of 30 (611870)
04-11-2011 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Briterican
04-11-2011 4:33 PM


Re: Time dilation would screw the proverbial pooch
Yea, The relativistic effects are rarely a concern for sci-fi.
I enjoyed the new " Battlestar Galactica" show, I watched the original growing up, and found the new one much more to my taste in sci fi. In one episode the effects of travel near the speed of light was mentioned, and the relativistic effects, but as far as I can recall the reason why this was not a problem with the FTL drive was never explained.
There are many great sci fi stories with so many different ideas of how the future might look I can only Imagine what the future of sci=fi will hold. I hope we never get so smart as to not be able to imagine the "what ifs" anymore.

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