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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 1 of 7 (607212)
03-02-2011 2:32 PM


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Sample of answers often posted,
quote:
.. you haven't provided the scripture you're referring to
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If the scribes asked the lamb to provide a scripture reference (book, chapter, and verse) and bible translation,
would that be necessary?
That's not necessary because every fragment of ancient writing is self-evident. The ancient writings are evidence for themselves
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If you recognize the alleged authority of any Archbishop then use the reference number of verse and chapter division that they printed in the bible for themselves.
If you don't recognize the authority of the State of Vatican then don't use it since every verse division number pertains to them since 1560 when the fragments were entirelly divided into the verse numbering form.
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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ringo
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Message 2 of 7 (607394)
03-03-2011 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by goldenlightArchangel
03-02-2011 2:32 PM


CraztDiamond7 writes:
If you don't recognize the authority of the State of Vatican then don't use it since every verse division number pertains to them since 1560 when the fragments were entirelly divided into the verse numbering form.
It has nothing to do with recognizing authority. It's just common courtesy to give the references - so people know what you're refering to.

You can have brevity and clarify, or you can have accuracy and detail, but you can't easily have both. --Percy

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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 3 of 7 (607403)
03-03-2011 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by ringo
03-03-2011 1:49 PM


Would you call it happiness
ringo writes:
CraztDiamond7 writes:
If you don't recognize the authority of the State of Vatican then don't use it since every verse division number pertains to them since 1560 when the fragments were entirelly divided into the verse numbering form.
It has nothing to do with recognizing authority. It's just common courtesy to give the references - so people know what you're refering to.
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- To whom the Word belongs - If a book that contains your words is written without numbers of verse divisions,
Would you allow an unauthorized group, whose system is criminal and breaks all of the ten commandments, to divide it into the verse numbering form?
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And whenever that verse division, that was first printed for themselves, is quoted and spoken as if it was a part of your word
Would you call it happiness?
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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Message 4 of 7 (607405)
03-03-2011 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by goldenlightArchangel
03-03-2011 3:28 PM


Re: Would you call it happiness
crazydiamond 7 writes:
1:1- To whom the Word belongs -
1:2 If a book that contains your words and written without numbers of verse divisions,
1:3 Would you allow an unauthorized group, whose system is criminal and breaks all of the ten commandments, to divide it into the verse numbering form?
1:4 And whenever that verse division, that was first printed for themselves, is quoted and spoken as if it was a part of your word
1:5 Would you call it happiness?
Yes I would.
Edited by rueh, : No reason given.

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The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

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ringo
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Message 5 of 7 (607412)
03-03-2011 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by goldenlightArchangel
03-03-2011 3:28 PM


Re: Would you call it happiness
CrazyDiamond7 writes:
- To whom the Word belongs - If a book that contains your words is written without numbers of verse divisions,
Would you allow an unauthorized group, whose system is criminal and breaks all of the ten commandments, to divide it into the verse numbering form?
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And whenever that verse division, that was first printed for themselves, is quoted and spoken as if it was a part of your word
Would you call it happiness?
If I was God, I wouldn't be so petty.

You can have brevity and clarify, or you can have accuracy and detail, but you can't easily have both. --Percy

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 6 of 7 (607415)
03-03-2011 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by goldenlightArchangel
03-02-2011 2:32 PM


Its nice to have the numbering system so that we can look up the verses ourselves and know exactly what the other person is talking about.
If you don't recognize the authority of the State of Vatican then don't use it since every verse division number pertains to them since 1560 when the fragments were entirelly divided into the verse numbering form.
That would be most unhelpful.
Here's what you can do...
Provide the numbering system with the caveat that you don't recongnize the authority of State of Vatican that put them there. Simple, no?

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03-03-2011 10:52 PM


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