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frako
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Message 13 of 160 (594349)
12-03-2010 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
12-02-2010 11:32 PM


I belive there is a higher probabilitiy of lif on other celestial bodies in OUR solar syistem then the probability of a god. Tough witouth evidence actual life found there i cant give a clear yes. Tough from wath we see on erth life adapts to almost anything so there are few evidential barriers that could give a definitive NO on moste of the celestial bodies in our solarsyistem.
As for the question you really have in mind do i belive in little green men visiting the erth and having S#$% with the ones they abduct. Well no i seriusly doubt that an alien civilization that has masterd intergalactical travele would abduct humans and have s#$ with them.
As for inteligent life being out there well i give it a definitive possibility

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frako
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Message 23 of 160 (594393)
12-03-2010 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Larni
12-03-2010 5:35 AM


After all, there is only so much information you can gather with an anal probe.
Well on the other hand if they think of us like we think of monkeys, some experimentation would happen if they where here.

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frako
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Message 97 of 160 (594671)
12-04-2010 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Bolder-dash
12-04-2010 1:52 PM


Re: Huh????? Life on other Planets?
Aliens in space
Well we have seen inteligent life form on Erth and so fare there is no evidence that Inteligente life Could not have formed on some other planet.
, vibrating strings of infinite size,
Well the the math suports it though i do not understand the theory too well
worm holes,
Just look at an apple ynd you will find one Worm holes are still verry hypothetical as fare as i know.
alternative dimensions of existence
I do not understand that one either thoug they say they have something to go on, Tough you would also haveto belive in this if you want to have your heven and hell.
An intelligent force behind observable ordered phenomenon
Well because you provide such silly arguments that cannot be supported. I see order so there must be a desighner Wtf. I do not see order so there is no desighner LOL. You would haveto acount to why one would NEED a desighner for ORDER why could it not just become order like it usualy does. Pour a drop of ink in to the glass at first it is verry disorderly, wait a while and all the water turns blue the colored molecules arange themselves in an orderly fasion and no one told them to.
Just interesting, that's all.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 108 of 160 (594751)
12-05-2010 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Bolder-dash
12-05-2010 5:00 AM


Re: Bolder is a Liar
Haha lol you really think alien life and god are on the same probability scale
What we know about life:
- it can adapt to the moste extreme enviorments, extremofiles can live in ACID, The new found nasa microbe can substitute arsenic for phospor.....
- We know life exsists we see it here on erth
- We know there are other planets simmilar to erarth, and we know that life should be able to adapt to more extreme conditions
Based on all this it is verry reasnoble to asume that the possibility for life oudside of Earth is possible, and if it is possible it should happen given that we have about an infinitive number of planets in our universe.
What we know about god
we know we cant see him
We cant here him
He is suposed to have supernatural powers tough no evidence of this power
He wants you to.... wel depends on the book and religion you belong to.
And he does not want you to ... well depends on the book or religion and how you interpret it.
And we have a rational explenation for why people believe, for most so called miricals.
So alien life has circumstantial evidence to point to it.
God has no evidence to point to him.
Witch is more probable ?

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frako
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Message 120 of 160 (594781)
12-05-2010 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Bolder-dash
12-05-2010 8:20 AM


Re: Bolder is a Liar
do you actualy read any replies or do you yust rant and rant whatever comes to mind.

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frako
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Message 123 of 160 (594841)
12-05-2010 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Bolder-dash
12-05-2010 12:19 PM


Re: Omnivorous Suspended 24 Hours
Nope it is not true tough you would not know why since you do not read the replies.
To try to explain it to you
Since we have evidence for life, and evidence that life formed on a planet and there are zillions more planets out theremoste of us would go to say there is a 50% to a 95% chance of there being more life out there tough we are not 100% shure because we have not found any yet.
We have no evidence for a god, no evidence that there might be a god...., we do not need a god to explain the current situation so there is a verry slim chance of there being a god. In the range of 0.0000000001% to 0.002%.
No true logicaly orientated person would say i am absolutly sure there is life out there or no life out there, a god or no god. Without ACTUAL EVIDENCE FOR THERE BEING A GOD OR LIFE OUT THERE. AND SINCE YOU CANN NEVER TOTALY DISPROVE BOTH NOTIONS NO ONE CAN SAY THERE IS NO GOD OUT THERE AND THERE IS NO LIFE OUT THERE EVER.
Even if we sweep the entire galaxy and we find no life there is a slim chance of there being life in other galxies tough the precentage would fall drasticly. The same aplies to god.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako
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Message 132 of 160 (595118)
12-06-2010 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by Granny Magda
12-05-2010 5:04 PM


Re: I Have Questions
# Do you know any specific details about the aliens, such as their names, their capabilities or what their opinions might be?
NO
Do you think that the aliens care about us or have ideas about what they would like us to do with our lives?
Depends it is possible that they are more intelligent then us and think that we should strive to do better. It is possible they think of us the way we think of monkeys. It is possible that they do not know of our existence. It is possible they do not exist ..... in short i dunno
Do you believe that the aliens have sent us any messages, perhaps in a radio transmission or maybe a book?
Seriously doubt it tough you should ask the governments of the world.
Do you believe that you can communicate with the aliens, or that they are in communication with you?
NO
Do you have a personal relationship with the aliens?
NO
Do you believe that aliens are responsible for the creation of the universe, the world, life or humanity?
Seriously doubt it.
Do you believe that the aliens are able to defy the laws of nature?
No because it is impossible tough any sufficiently advanced technology would look like magic to the un advanced.
Do you consider your belief in the probable existence of aliens to be the most important consideration in your life?
NO
Do you, of a weekend, like to go to a large building with a lot of other alien enthusiasts and sing praises to the aliens?
NO, and a haha.
Have you ever donated money to any venture directed at alien life in any way?
NO
Have you ever insisted in a court of law that your local school put the aliens on their science curriculum?
NO and a ha ha
Do you think that those who belittle the aliens or mock belief in alien life should face criminal charges of any sort?
No tough those that would demand this should look for a therapist.
Would you be willing to kill in the name of the aliens?
NO, i might be willing to kill the aliens if they wanted to "probe" me
Do you believe that, after your death, you will be transported to another planet to be with the aliens?
No and a ha ha
Have you ever spent time going door-to-door, trying to convince others to believe in aliens?
No and a ha ha
Do you believe that there was ever an individual who was both human and alien and that he loves you?
No, and a brain teaser could/would an intelligent alien life force feel the same emotion of love as we do?
Do you ever hang around on internet forums making inept attempts at ridiculing those who do not believe in aliens?
No and a ha ha
So do my answers make me a religious alien fanatic placing my faith over the evidence ?

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frako
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Message 133 of 160 (595119)
12-06-2010 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by lyx2no
12-05-2010 5:23 PM


Re: I Have Questions
She: 7 of 9, but that was short lived.
What about Bellana tores half klingon half human, Spock half vulcan half human.

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frako
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Message 138 of 160 (603009)
02-02-2011 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Dogmafood
02-02-2011 7:08 AM


What is the likelihood that any intelligent species that we encounter would be friendly?
Well if we use ourselves as a model for what would likely happen you can look at what happened in America Africa or any other culture that met a very advanced culture. So it is probably more likely they would not be so friendly and we would probably end up on an intergalactic slave market.
Well if they would contact earth i would send the ambassadors because a civilization that mastered star travel would mop up the earths whole military in a matter of hours.
edit: added
And if a very friendly and good willing civilization knows about us and did some background studies on us it would not land on earth anytime soon. Why because shit would hit the fan hard if they come and land the worlds fundies would go screaming they are daemons deceivers bla bla bla and ours is the only god he dint make them their made from satans own flesh attaaack ......
And if they land and say praise Jesus the son of god the Muslims will freak out and declare jihad, if they come and say praise Allah the Christian creos would freak out and declare holly ware ......
So if there are good civilizations out there we will not be seeing them anytime soon.
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frako
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Posts: 2932
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Message 149 of 160 (603169)
02-03-2011 6:34 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Blue Jay
02-02-2011 10:31 AM


Why do people always think it makes sense to compare advanced aliens to 19th century European imperialists?
Becauzse its roughly the only comparrison we got if they are dumb, poor,..... we exploit them africa is still being exploited for its natural resources,. The native americans live in reservations while this was their continent, my guess is the aborigines are not faring much better. Its the only comparrison we got, tough they could be totaly different we just do not know the best guess would be comparing them to what we know.
Are most people today like 19th century European imperialists?
No but close hiering les fortunates immigrants so you can exploit their work power for a few bucks. Sure we do not enslave them anymore because we got things like human rights but if the subjects are less intelligent then humans say the intelligence of a cow they get to live in a space to small for them to turn they get feed nasty shit so they can get fat real fast and then they get killed and slaughtered. So what do you think a smarter race would do to us a race that would regard our intelligence the same way we regard the intelligence of a cow.
Do most advanced nations today attempt to conquer and enslave less advanced peoples?
No most of the relay less advanced nations are already conquered and being exploited, the slightly less advanced ones are getting their turn of ass raping now.

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frako
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From: slovenija
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Message 153 of 160 (603254)
02-03-2011 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Blue Jay
02-03-2011 10:42 AM


We could try comparing them to a more advanced society, because that would seem to be a more appropriate comparison, anyway.
Ohh ok lets compare them to america, waging a ware every 20 years, exploiting imigrant labure ......
They're just as free to move about the country as anybody else in the USA. I know a lot of Native Americans of several different tribes who don't live on reservations, and hold jobs that are just as good as anybody else's jobs.
We would be just as free as them roaming the earth as long as we follow their rules.
Knowledge and intelligence are not the same thing. Just because aliens know more than us and have a more advanced society than us, doesn't mean that their intelligence is inherently superior to ours in the way that ours is inherently superior to cows'.
It is fare mor likley that it is genetic enginiring cyber implants .... would all be old news to them.

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