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Author Topic:   Bush's Shia Islamic War Vs Obama's Sunni War
ringo
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Message 8 of 111 (599563)
01-08-2011 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Buzsaw writes:
What think you, in light of the stats of most favorable Islamic regimes as per President Obama?
Do you understand the difference between statistics and anecdotes? How do you determine statistically whether a whole nation is Sunni or Shi'ite?

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ringo
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Message 32 of 111 (599627)
01-09-2011 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Buzsaw
01-09-2011 10:27 AM


Re: Buz, you are making no sense.
Buzsaw writes:
What I meant to say is that these nations regard Obama as a Sunni Muslim.
Roman Catholics are the dominant religious group in Canada. Most of our recent Prime Ministers have been Roman Catholic but our current Prime Minister is an evangelical Protestant. How does that effect the way Canada is "regarded" by the rest of the world? Do you think we missed getting a seat on the UN Security Council because we're not considered Catholic any more?

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ringo
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Message 38 of 111 (599698)
01-09-2011 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Buzsaw
01-09-2011 8:33 PM


Re: Buz, you are making no sense.
Buzsaw writes:
What's the point?
The point is that you can't use a few numbers from Wikipedia or elsewhere to decide that a country is Sunni or Shi'ite. The distinction that you're trying to make is as nonsensical as the idea that Obama involuntarily inherited Islam from his father.

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ringo
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Message 42 of 111 (599766)
01-10-2011 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Buzsaw
01-10-2011 1:08 PM


Re: Children & Religion
Buzsaw writes:
Are you saying that the stats are not accurate and/or have no relevance?
I'm saying that you can't use those numbers to characterize a country. Canada isn't an evangelical Protestant country because we have an evangelical Protestant Prime Minister, nor is it a Roman Catholic country because the largest religious group is Roman Catholics. The same applies to Islam. You can't characterize a country as Sunni ot Shi'ite based on numbers.
Buzsaw writes:
Whether you're aware or not, the rule of thumb, the father determines the religion of his family.
That's utter nonsense. You, of all people, should understand that a Christian is a Christian because of his own beliefs, not his father's beliefs. The same applies to any other belief.
Edited by ringo, : Sprlling.

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ringo
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Message 56 of 111 (600044)
01-12-2011 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Buzsaw
01-12-2011 12:00 AM


Re: Children & Religion
So your claim then is that Obama is perceived as a Muslim by Muslims? Do you have any evidence from Muslims to suggest that?

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ringo
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Message 75 of 111 (600708)
01-16-2011 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Buzsaw
01-16-2011 3:57 PM


Re: Obama's Religion
Buzsaw writes:
Obama and the mainstream Democrat oriented liberal media has propagated the stealth Islamic religion of our president.
I asked you a question back in Message 56:
quote:
So your claim then is that Obama is perceived as a Muslim by Muslims? Do you have any evidence from Muslims to suggest that?

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ringo
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Message 84 of 111 (600743)
01-16-2011 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Buzsaw
01-16-2011 9:17 PM


Re: Obama's Religion
Buzsaw writes:
Hamas would not support a professing Christian supporter of Israel. The whole Arab block of nations understood who Obama is/was.
Your own source doesn't support that claim. It says that Hamas prefered Obama to McCain. Maybe others in the Muslim world did too. Certainly the American voters did.
Buzsaw writes:
The US sheeple....
Stop calling them that. It's an insult to democracy. You're implying that only people who agree with you have minds of their own.

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ringo
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Message 99 of 111 (600838)
01-17-2011 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Buzsaw
01-17-2011 11:20 AM


Re: Obama's Drive
Buzsaw writes:
My point that was that they would not have supported any Christian or pro-Israel candidate; either Obama or McCain.
They didn't "support" Obama; they expressed a preference. In Canada, we couldn't care less what some foreigners think about our elections. I assume it's the same in the US, so Hamas' preference is irrelevant.
Buzsaw writes:
It's the sheeple who blindly went to the poles, ignorant of Obama's ties to freedom undermining terrorist, Bill Ayers, his wife Bernadine Dohrn, Frank Marshal Davis, avowed Communist, socialist billionaire, George Soros, Nation of Islam constituents like Obama's 20 year pastor/mentor , Louis Farrakan, leftist activist Acorn, etc, etc, who are the real threat to our great republic (not democracy).
Don't be stupid. It wasn't communists or socialists or Muslims who elected Obama; it was the majority of American voters. You're saying that the majority of American voters are incapable of making an intelligent choice. THAT is an affront to democracy.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Your candidate lost. Grow up and get over it.

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