Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,913 Year: 4,170/9,624 Month: 1,041/974 Week: 368/286 Day: 11/13 Hour: 0/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Religion and IQ
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 44 of 88 (597822)
12-24-2010 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by frako
12-22-2010 4:13 PM


Here's The Deal.
frako writes:
[qs link]The data shown above begs the question: what would be revealed by a survey that correlated IQ and religiosity on an individual basis? Within a given population, is religion more important to persons of high intelligence, or low intelligence?
Here's the deal, Frako. Note in the survey, the nations which register the highest are non-evangelicals. In fact most are non-Christian. In fact most are either Muslim, Roman Catholic or Pagan. In fact, most are not scholastically educated to any significant degree, if not any at all.
Has a study been done on the US by itself? On Protestant vs Roman Catholic, globally? Note in the survey that the Roman Catholic SA nations rate high. Education is not the forte of these nations.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by frako, posted 12-22-2010 4:13 PM frako has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 46 by Panda, posted 12-24-2010 11:32 AM Buzsaw has replied
 Message 47 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 11:33 AM Buzsaw has not replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 56 of 88 (597835)
12-24-2010 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Panda
12-24-2010 11:32 AM


Re: Here's The Deal.
Panda writes:
.I would just like to point out that 'education' is not a synonym for 'intelligence'. They are different things."
Like Frako has shown to be the case, the study was not based on intelligence perse. That's what I assumed when I made my comment. The study was erroneously (purposely?) mislabeled.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 46 by Panda, posted 12-24-2010 11:32 AM Panda has seen this message but not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 58 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 3:44 PM Buzsaw has replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 57 of 88 (597836)
12-24-2010 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by jar
12-24-2010 3:31 PM


Actually, statistics lie all the time. That is one of the beautiful and useful things
Jar writes:
Actually, statistics lie all the time. That is one of the beautiful and useful things about statistics.
Mmm, I'll keep in mind you said that in future debates.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 55 by jar, posted 12-24-2010 3:31 PM jar has not replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 59 of 88 (597838)
12-24-2010 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by frako
12-24-2010 3:25 PM


Stats & Fundamentals
Frako writes:
Actualy math does not lie.......
That is debatabled
ABE: As for fundamentals, statistics would depend on which fundamentals. The Biblical fundamentals of Biblical fundies would show far different statistic results than those of Hindus, Muslims, Pagans, and even Roman Catholicism, globally, in that the Biblical fundies are better educated, as a group.
Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 54 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 3:25 PM frako has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 60 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 4:05 PM Buzsaw has not replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 61 of 88 (597842)
12-24-2010 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by frako
12-24-2010 3:44 PM


Re: Statistics
Frako, I take little stock in all of those examples you just posted. They remind me of EvC's rating system. No matter how intelligent the fundi, LoL on anything above a two or three. Most are ones and twos. Some evolutionists who don't show a lot of intelligence end up with high ratings which appear to be highly biased relative to ideology.
The ideology of those compiling the stats likely factor in significantly relative to the data they use in the studies.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 58 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 3:44 PM frako has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 62 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 4:25 PM Buzsaw has replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 63 of 88 (597848)
12-24-2010 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by frako
12-24-2010 4:25 PM


Re: Statistics
I wasn't insinuating you at all, Frako. I consider you to be quite intelligent, though would think that regardless of your language, by now you would have learned some sentence structure, punctuation and capitalization skills in your messages.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 62 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 4:25 PM frako has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 64 by frako, posted 12-24-2010 7:17 PM Buzsaw has not replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


(2)
Message 77 of 88 (599540)
01-08-2011 3:06 PM


Fundamentalist Groups
Having been in many fundi churches and other fundi circles over six decades, from all over the nation, imo, the pentecostals, other charismatic groups and Jehovah's Witnesses are the less intelligent, by and large. They are actually the least fundamental when it comes to literal interpretation of the New Testament. The Jim Jones suicide cultists, for example were pentecostal types.
The graduates of fundi universities such as Bob Jones University, Liberty University and Pensacola Bible College, etc tend to be highly sought after for employment. Having attended BJU for a year and a half, some of the most intelligent people I've encountered were there on the staff and in the classes.
People like Dr James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministries and David Barton are good examples of highly intelligent noted non-pentecostal fundis, where as folks like Oral Roberts, the defamed Jimmy Swaggart, James & Tammy baker & the PTL Club, Pat Robertson etc tend to be the less intelligent ones, some of whom ended up in hot water legally.
The ministries of the latter tended to be more emotion driven whereas the more intelligent fundi groups tended to be more doctrinal driven ministries.
I am regarded by many here on this board as a really stupid unintelligent dumb ass. As a matter of fact, I scored the 2nd to the top IQ in our boot training outfit in the USAF and score high in online tests, IQ wise. Like, Slevesque, this is not to brag, but to address the topic question.
My point is that intelligence rating in boards, such as this is, are often determined ideologically. The rating system here bears that out. That is not the fault of the rating system. That is simply cause and effect, the majority having a non-religious ideology.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Replies to this message:
 Message 78 by ringo, posted 01-08-2011 4:33 PM Buzsaw has not replied
 Message 79 by bluescat48, posted 01-08-2011 4:59 PM Buzsaw has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024