Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?

True, however as I already stated the OP never suggests which type of designer we are to consider. I am trying to point out the type of designer whether active, inactive, natural or supernatural all plays out on how we consider the importance of each. And if Jar had intended us to consider a designer who is inactive and operated within our known methods of evolution, than he should have specifically stated this. Without this than any hypothetical designer is up for consideration and some of those hypothetical designers have a larger impact than just mere footnotes or liability issues. No I am merely suggesting one type of designer. One which many folks here already have experience with and can relate to. Jar suggested a purely hypothetical situation with no constraints on who the designer is or how they operated. As such any amount of speculation can be added to this to go from no importance to massive importance. If Jar wants to confine his hypothetical situation down to such a small group of possible designers with no input since creation and that operated with in known processes of biology, chemistry and physics. Than I would concede that their identity would have no bearing on how scientific investigation is conducted. But if the identity is left up to any possible answer, than the importance of the designer can have huge repercussions on science and everyday life.

---

'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

Well in that case it is rueh (note the u before the e). I don't believe I have mentioned any janitors or workers of any type. I have however mentioned that the type of designer you choose to propose influences how much their identity could matter. Wouldn't a supernatural designer be just another type of designer? Which type of designer did you have in mind? Are you wanting to discuss a designer that has no impact on everyday life and whose finding would not conflict with any science so far? Or do you think that current theories proport a designer and whose finding would be in line with current theories? That's not true. I have given several examples how the type of designer can influence how much importance people would place on its identity. Just because you don't want to acknowledge them doesn't mean I haven't shown anything.

---

'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

Well with that I agree. In reality there is no designer that has been identified and no scientific theory makes note of a need for a designer. However if one was ever found to be true. You can bet your ass you would have a million people proclaiming why their choosen identity of the designer matters and others don't. Real world examples? No, not off hand. However for this thought experiment. I believe that the identity of the designer plays the most important role in both religious and philosophical aspects. ID is just one type of field where a designer is required and I didn't think that we were talking about ID designers specifically. Creationism also needs a designer and in it the supernatural is firmly embedded. However I am not a proponent of either. I believe that ID is religion relabeled. I just wanted to play devil’s advocate because I felt that jar was wrong on this point of identity not mattering for the designer.

---

'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

Ok, I see the point you are making and where our disagreement and my confusion lies. I am confusing other roles that the designer could play as opposed to his original work of design.In that case knowing the identity of the designer may only be important (other than historical footnotes or liability) if we wanted to commune with them. Whether or not this would be possible is beyond me. However I know some people would want to find answers for their questions regarding our universe and lives, straight from the horse's mouth. As opposed to the scientific investigation that we now use.ABE: On second thought, if a method was devised to commune with the designer that would be fullfilling a seperate role from designer to facilitator. So it has nothing to do with their original designing processes.Edited by rueh, : No reason given.

---

'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX