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Author Topic:   Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?
Philip Johnson
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Message 85 of 214 (598211)
12-29-2010 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Larni
11-03-2010 4:59 AM


"Just think how I could improve things if I had his power."
What would you improve? Is there anything other than humans that you would improve?

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Philip Johnson
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Message 88 of 214 (598227)
12-29-2010 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by jar
12-29-2010 5:10 PM


Re: Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?
"Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?"
We would have to ask the Designer. It has been my experience that most people have a problem believing in a Designer because they have a problem with the design. I am interested to know what you all think... Do you "dislike" any part of the universe other than humans?

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Philip Johnson
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Message 90 of 214 (598232)
12-29-2010 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Larni
12-29-2010 6:01 PM


Re: Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?
Larni, you are the one who said you could improve on the universe. That is why I ask... Do you "dislike" any part of the universe other than humans? I would truly like to know your answer.

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Philip Johnson
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Message 93 of 214 (598252)
12-29-2010 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Larni
12-29-2010 6:14 PM


Re: Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?
"I would remove feline leukaemia from the world."
Would you change anything outside of the earth?

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Philip Johnson
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Message 95 of 214 (598309)
12-30-2010 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by Larni
12-29-2010 6:38 PM


Re: Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?
The initial question was "Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?"
Yes it does. If the Designer designed that if you fall 40+ feet you will likely die, then it does matter that you avoid falling 40+ feet if you do not want to die. What does NOT matter is if you do not like the fact that Designer designed it that way.

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Philip Johnson
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Message 99 of 214 (598317)
12-30-2010 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by subbie
12-30-2010 9:32 AM


Re: Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?
subbie wrote: "No. If falling 40 feet will kill you, you want to avoid falling 40 feet. And that's regardless of whether a designer is involved or not."
The initial question is based on the idea that there IS a designer. The initial question was "Even if THERE WAS a Designer, does it matter?"
So yes it does. If the Designer designed that if you fall 40+ feet you will likely die, then it does matter that you avoid falling 40+ feet if you do not want to die.
Likewise, just as you should pay attention to the natural laws that the Designer designed, you should pay attention to the spiritual laws that the Designer designed.
So it would seem to matter a great deal IF there was a Designer (which is the question of this topic).

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