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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi xongsmith,
I wasn't confused. But, yes. Nice summation. ... but which only perpetuates the confused conflation of how with why, rather than the distinction.
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quote: One of the things we strive for here is clarity of meaning in order to enhance understanding. How things are done is not why things are done. Why things are done is not how things are done. How things happen is explained by science. Why things happen is not explained by science.
The word "why" should be avoided in our dissertations & ruminations, unless it cannot be avoided. When you can use how, then that is the proper choice. Why do I say that? because that is the way the words should be used. How do I say that? In english typing on my computer. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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One of the things we strive for here is clarity of meaning in order to enhance understanding. Clarity of meaning? With 20+ definitions for how and 7 or so for why? That is being colossally, enormously, gargantuously, grossly, hugely, immensely, mammothly, massively, monstrously, prodigiously, stupendously, super-colossally, tremendously, vastly, whoppingly and overly pedantic, and is more likely to drive away any possible audience you may have. Brevity and clarity are much under appreciated in writing, nowhere more so than on the internet, whereas pedanticalness sucks where ever it is found.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2578 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
coyote writes: Clarity of meaning? With 20+ definitions for how and 7 or so for why? That is being colossally, enormously, gargantuously, grossly, hugely, immensely, mammothly, massively, monstrously, prodigiously, stupendously, super-colossally, tremendously, vastly, whoppingly and overly pedantic, and is more likely to drive away any possible audience you may have. Brevity and clarity are much under appreciated in writing, nowhere more so than on the internet, whereas pedanticalness sucks where ever it is found.
One of the things we strive for here is clarity of meaning in order to enhance understanding. Clarity of meaning? With 20+ definitions for how and 7 or so for why? That is being colossally, enormously, gargantuously, grossly, hugely, immensely, mammothly, massively, monstrously, prodigiously, stupendously, super-colossally, tremendously, vastly, whoppingly and overly pedantic, and is more likely to drive away any possible audience you may have. Brevity and clarity are much under appreciated in writing, nowhere more so than on the internet, whereas pedanticalness sucks where ever it is found. I think you meant pedanticalitudelinessificationisms. Maybe here is the soul of wit you seek from that RAZZleDAZZle:
RAZD writes: How things are done is not why things are done.Why things are done is not how things are done. How things happen is explained by science. Why things happen is not explained by science. Consider trying to deal with that sad broken person, Dawn Bertot. We must be precise, no? - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Meldinoor Member (Idle past 4809 days) Posts: 400 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
From Message 33 in thread What variety of creationist is Buzsaw? (Minnemooseus and Buzsaw only):
Buzsaw writes: One of my problems is with the SM position that the fossil date can be determined by the age it takes on from the sediment. The sediment is nothing but compacted and hardened old soil, tiny old rock/sand particles, minerals and other inorganic matter, having long existed on the surface of the old earth before being deposited around and/or in the fossil. That would be tantamount to dating a house from the age of the material in it. No? Actually, (and I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong on this) I think sedimentary rock isn't dated radiometrically. Instead, what they do is date the igneous rock that lies above and below a given layer of sedimentary rock, and infer its age to lie between the two. Since igneous rock is dated from the moment which it last solidified and formed a layer, it's possible to determine the relative age of fossils in the sedimentary layer. So Buzsaw is arguing from a flawed understanding of how fossils are dated. Respectfully, -Meldinoor
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
One of my problems is with the SM position...
He's also confusing the scientific method with some sort of ideology. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1344 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
DrJones* writes: One of my problems is with the SM position... He's also confusing the scientific method with some sort of ideology. i wonder what his favourite SM position is? personally, i'm not into that kind of thing, but whatever floats your boat i guess.
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2698 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, Meldinoor.
Meldinoor writes: A scientific flaw in Buzsaw's argument What!? Never!! -Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus) Darwin loves you.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2578 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Can arachnophilia make even a little lightbulb go off in Dawn's head? Place your bets, ladies & gentlemen.
- xongsmith, 5.7d
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1344 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
can i bet against myself here?
*headdesk headdesk headdesk*
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anglagard Member (Idle past 837 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
xongsmith writes: Can arachnophilia make even a little lightbulb go off in Dawn's head? Place your bets, ladies & gentlemen. In the words of the great immortal prophet of the 1980's, Mr T "I pity the fool." The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes. Salman Rushdie This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
'fraid I must agree with you.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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lyx2no Member (Idle past 4716 days) Posts: 1277 From: A vast, undifferentiated plane. Joined: |
Not one that wouldn't be hidden under a basket.
When cometh the day We lowly ones Through quiet reflection And great dedication Master the art of karate Lo, we shall rise up And then we'll make The bugger's eyes water Roger Waters
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Panda Member (Idle past 3713 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
I have proved that Dawn guesses what people write.
This means that intelligent discourse is pointless and education is unlikely.
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Dawn Bertot Member Posts: 3571 Joined: |
Can arachnophilia make even a little lightbulb go off in Dawn's head? Place your bets, ladies & gentlemen. Unfortunately, Arch understands neither the method of reasoning he has chosen or the God and book he is representing. He hasnt been upfront about his own beliefs, so how could he help, giude or direct anyone else? Dawn Bertot Edited by Dawn Bertot, : No reason given.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4190 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
And you can? His "rantings" make much more sense than yours do.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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