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Bolder-dash
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Message 46 of 160 (594536)
12-03-2010 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by crashfrog
12-03-2010 8:28 PM


You don't know much about casinos.

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crashfrog
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Message 47 of 160 (594537)
12-03-2010 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 8:30 PM


Now how can that be, that 100% of the people here say yes, its either likely, or they believe it is true-and yet those exact same people absolutely scoff at the notion that there is a God.
Life in the universe is manifest. You can look around and see it. If it's here it stands to reason that it's probably somewhere else.
God is not manifest. There is no place you can go where you can see any evidence of God whatsoever. None at all. So it doesn't make sense to suggest that there's a God anywhere.
"The existence of life" and the "existence of God" are two completely different positions.
One could very easily argue that there is much more evidence for a God than there is for life on other planets, let's be honest here.
No, there's no evidence for any God.
. We do have laws of nature, and physical properties and physical constants in the world-so these had to come from some where.
Why did they have to come from anywhere? Where in the universe can you go where there's no laws of nature or physical properties? Why do you think that these things could ever be absent?
You like Star Trek, you are a bunch of star gazing tech geeks
Oh, shit, you really got us! I don't think I've been this burned since junior high AV club.

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crashfrog
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Message 48 of 160 (594538)
12-03-2010 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 8:34 PM


You don't know much about casinos.
Clearly, I know far more than you.
You know, since I can do math.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 49 of 160 (594539)
12-03-2010 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by crashfrog
12-03-2010 8:41 PM


Yes, and you clearly no nothing about psychology. So you wouldn't make a very good pit boss.

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crashfrog
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Message 50 of 160 (594540)
12-03-2010 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 8:50 PM


Yes, and you clearly no nothing about psychology.
Psychology only makes you money in advertising. Keeping people in the casino and playing games doesn't make them any money unless the casino makes money on the games.
Do you understand that? That if the casino pays out more in wins than they take in in losses, they lose money? I can't believe even you are dumb enough to think that casinos are in business to lose money.
The odds come first. You can even check! Next time you're in the casino, do the math. You'll see that most games are getting you less than 80 cents to the dollar. That difference is the casino's profit. Where else would it come from?

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subbie
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Message 51 of 160 (594541)
12-03-2010 8:55 PM


Good grief, Bolderhead, what are you trying to do, prove how wrong you can be in as many off topic ways as possible? You've got a long ways to go to pass Buz on that effort, but you are off to a marvelous start here.
Moron.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Coyote
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Message 52 of 160 (594544)
12-03-2010 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 8:30 PM


Laughable?
Just look at how laughable coyote's response is:
Unlike religionists, scientists tend to follow the evidence where it leads, not rely on 3,000 year old texts written by goat-herders and other mystics.
Life on other planets is probable, but there is little evidence either way. I'll wait until there is. Unlike you; you appear to firmly "believe" such life can't exist.
He is trying to condemn ME for not believing that life on other planets exists! Which is odd, not only because I never made a comment about whether I believe it does or not, but more pertinently because he spends his whole existence on this forum stating unequivocally that a God surely doesn't exist! As do 90 % of the evolutionists here. Some may be agnostic on the issue, but even those who are agnostic about it don't go around saying "well, I don't know, but it sure seems likely, or probable, or you would think so...."all of the types of comments you would get when you ask them about life on other planets.
There is positive evidence for life on planets. Our sample is limited to one right now--Earth--but that could change any day.
There is no evidence for deities of any kind. Lots of belief, but no evidence.
Now who's position is laughable?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 53 of 160 (594548)
12-03-2010 9:17 PM
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12-03-2010 8:55 PM


!00% of the regular evolutionist contributors to this website believe there is life on other planets with exactly ZERO evidence for such a belief.
If that doesn't tell you anything about the nature of the people, and the inaccurate declaration that so called "scientists" use their rational minds to form their beliefs, then what the fuck are you here for, because you sure as hell aren't going to learn anything.
So, just jam your fingers in your ears, and hide your eyes. Or you can attempt the impossible logic of crashfrog 'why did the order have to come from anywhere, and life is ever present throughout the universe", hogwash. Either way, the evidence can't be any clearer, 100% believe in something they have no evidence for, and at the same time insist there is no God.
Just don't try to convince me that your beliefs are purely based on sound principals.

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crashfrog
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Message 54 of 160 (594550)
12-03-2010 9:19 PM
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12-03-2010 9:17 PM


!00% of the regular evolutionist contributors to this website believe there is life on other planets with exactly ZERO evidence for such a belief.
That's certainly not what any of them said in this thread. Did you even bother reading any of the responses? Clearly not.
Or you can attempt the impossible logic of crashfrog 'why did the order have to come from anywhere, and life is ever present throughout the universe", hogwash.
If it's hogwash, refute it. You don't know how to, though, do you?

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Bolder-dash
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Message 55 of 160 (594551)
12-03-2010 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Coyote
12-03-2010 9:01 PM


Re: Laughable?
There is evidence for life in one form, physical, so that is evidence that there could be life in other forms, meta-physical.
See how easy it is to use your catastrophically bad analogies?

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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 56 of 160 (594552)
12-03-2010 9:22 PM
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12-03-2010 9:21 PM


Re: Laughable?
There is evidence for life in one form, physical, so that is evidence that there could be life in other forms, meta-physical.
But there's no evidence of anything that is metaphysical. So physical life isn't evidence for metaphysical life; it's only evidence for physical life in other locations.

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subbie
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Message 57 of 160 (594553)
12-03-2010 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 9:17 PM


I wouldn't try to convince you that the sky is blue or the grass is green. All I have to prove those things is real world evidence, and you've proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that you don't live in the real world.
The concept of trying to educate you reminds me of the old joke about trying to teach a pig to ride a bicycle. All you end up doing is making yourself look like a fool and annoying the pig.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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lyx2no
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Message 58 of 160 (594556)
12-03-2010 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 8:30 PM


Joy
Now how can that be, that 100% of the people here say yes, its either likely, or they believe it is true-and yet those exact same people absolutely scoff at the notion that there is a God.[sic] If you asked the exact same question and just replaced it with God, the numbers would totally flip flop.
Was that all the point you were trying to make? Did you really think you had to fool us to get there? The sad part is for all the saying of "Life on other planets yes, because and "Ecto-dimensional creators no, because" you failed to hear any of it.
It's not the sci-geek side of any argument that is hard to pin down; i.e., ask any one of us for an example of the scientific method in action and you'd get a dozen examples from each of us. The same would apply to just about any question you could think of.
But, par usual, the fundi-kook questions aren't really designed to garner information, are they? They're simply gantries to launch non-sequiturs from.
Oh! and thank God someone finally noticed I was a Star Trek geek. Now I can take off the T-shirt long enough to wash it.

Be still, the demands I make upon your conscience are slight. It is only your flattery I seek, not your sincerity.

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jar
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Message 59 of 160 (594557)
12-03-2010 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Bolder-dash
12-03-2010 9:21 PM


Huh?????
Bolder-dash writes:
There is evidence for life in one form, physical, so that is evidence that there could be life in other forms, meta-physical.
Huh?
That makes no sense at all. How does the existence of physical provide evidence that there is meta-physical?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Bolder-dash
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Message 60 of 160 (594560)
12-03-2010 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by jar
12-03-2010 9:34 PM


Re: Huh?????
Yes, you really got me there, it doesn't make sense at all, come to think of it.
You and crashfrog are really genius at spotting bad analogies! Its almost as if its such a bad analogies that it would seem like someone purposely was making a bad analogy to illustrate some point about bad analogies.
It such a ridiculous analogy it seems almost a child would make it up. Physical life is evidence for meta-physical life! get outta here! Life on Earth is evidence for life on other planets..get the fuck...wait, what?!
No, in the future one should really be careful about trying to pull any fast ones on you guys, you catch it all!

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