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Coragyps
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Message 1 of 25 (56801)
09-21-2003 4:39 PM


This almost could go in Bible Inerrancy, but I thought I'd stick it here instead: the first-ever radiometric date for a Biblical structure has been published, and is consistent with the Biblical text. King Hezekiah's aqueduct (II Kings 20:20) has been determined to be about 2500 years old:
A. Frumkin, et al., Nature, vol 425, pp 169-171, (11 Sept 2003). The abstract:
The historical credibility of texts from the Bible is often debated when compared with Iron Age archaeological finds (refs . 1, 2 and references therein). Modern scientific methods may, in principle, be used to independently date structures that seem to be mentioned in the biblical text, to evaluate its historical authenticity. In reality, however, this approach is extremely difficult because of poor archaeological preservation, uncertainty in identification, scarcity of datable materials, and restricted scientific access into well-identified worship sites. Because of these problems, no well-identified Biblical structure has been radiometrically dated until now. Here we report radiocarbon and U—Th dating of the Siloam Tunnel, proving its Iron Age II date; we conclude that the Biblical text presents an accurate historic record of the Siloam Tunnel's construction. Being one of the longest ancient water tunnels lacking intermediate shafts, dating the Siloam Tunnel is a key to determining where and when this technological breakthrough took place. Siloam Tunnel dating also refutes a claim that the tunnel was constructed in the second century BC.
If any of you are interested enough, and can't find this at your library, email me and I'll send a copy.

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Coragyps
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Message 15 of 25 (57033)
09-22-2003 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Trump won
09-22-2003 8:46 PM


Dating methods of these types are admittedly accurate up to some 6-10,000 years according to the guy who created the dating method.
Dr Libby developed carbon-14 dating over fifty years ago, using a Geiger counter to count C-14 decay events in multi-gram samples. Science and technology have progressed since then, messenjaH. Geiger counters have been obsolete for forty years or so now. Accelerator mass spectrometry hadn't been invented thirty years ago. Carbon-14 dating uses AMS now - it's been calibrated quite accurately back to 38,000 years ago by counting lake varves and dating leaves and insect parts in those varves.
Please don't believe all you read on sites like Kent Hovind's. They aim to deceive, like they deceived you with that statement.

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Coragyps
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Message 18 of 25 (57047)
09-22-2003 10:24 PM
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09-22-2003 10:00 PM


"After about 50,000 years, the amount of carbon 14 will be so small that the fossil can't be dated reliably"
Which is precisely why the scientists that use 14C don't try to use it past that age, except with newer, as yet not fully tried instrumentation and methods. These people are not idiots - they are conscientious workers that know that others will review every speck of their work.
I said "like Hovind." DrDino is far from the only source of BS and disinformation on the web.

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Coragyps
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Message 22 of 25 (59149)
10-02-2003 6:38 PM
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10-02-2003 6:00 PM


Yep.

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