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jaywill
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Message 61 of 66 (564805)
06-12-2010 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by hooah212002
06-11-2010 12:05 AM


Re: Growing And Learning
Perhaps they saw through the shenanigans. The more I read "the book", the further away from it I want to be. The more I learn about your sick and twisted religion, the further I want my children to be from it.
So you teach your children that Jesus Christ was sick and twisted ?
That may work while thier juviniles. When they get to really forming their own personalities and opinions they may turn around at 19 or 20 saying "Dad really had an axe to grind about Jesus."
Might backfire on you.
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hooah212002
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Message 62 of 66 (564897)
06-13-2010 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by jaywill
06-12-2010 7:14 PM


Re: Growing And Learning
So you teach your children that Jesus Christ was sick and twisted ?
I'm glad you found it necessary to pull something from what I wrote and turn it into something I did not write. I don't talk to my son about jesus anymore than you talk to your (if any) children about Zeus or Odin or Thor. And if you do talk to your (if any) children about said figures, I relegate jesus and YHWH to the same status: myth.

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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jaywill
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Message 63 of 66 (564986)
06-14-2010 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by hooah212002
06-13-2010 4:33 PM


Re: Growing And Learning
I'm glad you found it necessary to pull something from what I wrote and turn it into something I did not write.
No doubt you never do that.
I don't talk to my son about jesus anymore than you talk to your (if any) children about Zeus or Odin or Thor. And if you do talk to your (if any) children about said figures, I relegate jesus and YHWH to the same status: myth.
My two kids are grown in and in their upper 20s and low 30s now.
I started out telling them that a ant was a higher being than a germ, a mouse was a higher being then an ant, a chimp was a higher being then a mouse, and a human being was a higher being then a chimp.
Then I told them that I just believe in one more higher being then the atheist does.
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jenisturt
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Message 64 of 66 (568258)
07-05-2010 2:22 AM


Hi Jay,
That's a good thought. You should believe in what your heart believes in and have faith in Him. If you believe that there is only one higher being, be it. It is not necessary to be following a particular religion to have faith in Him. It is just that the path that you have selected to follow is not based on the bounds of any religion.

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jar
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Message 65 of 66 (568346)
07-05-2010 9:58 AM
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05-31-2010 10:54 PM


Do people tend to just pick and choose what they believe from the Bible (or unreasonable facsimile thereof) ???
Actually, people do even more than that. People decide what goes into a Bible and to date, the only books that have been selected to go into all the Canons are the first five.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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greyseal
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Message 66 of 66 (580025)
09-07-2010 10:33 AM
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06-14-2010 8:41 AM


Re: Growing And Learning
jaywill writes:
My two kids are grown in and in their upper 20s and low 30s now.
I started out telling them that a ant was a higher being than a germ, a mouse was a higher being then an ant, a chimp was a higher being then a mouse, and a human being was a higher being then a chimp.
Then I told them that I just believe in one more higher being then the atheist does.
Can I point out that, when it comes to animals, that isn't what "higher" is supposed to mean?
A chimp and a human are very, very close to each other genetically - a chimp is stronger, can move faster through it's own environment...but it's not quite so clever as a human. Why though is a human "higher" than a chimp?
Mice are also very genetically similar to humans - rats infact can eat toxins that would kill a human stone dead, chew through steel and lift comparably heavier items. They're also smaller.
Is physical size what makes things "higher"?
And an ant, well, it can lift many times it's own weight, is armoured, has jaws with a vice-like grip we find difficult to replicate with even modern machinery, it builds cities the equivalent of miles high sky-scrapers with low-energy air-conditioning...but yeah, it's a bug.
But why is it "lower" ? Is it only because it's smaller?
Is your god, then, a bigger human? I mean I know the bible describes fearsome creatures with six wings, eyes all over their body, four faces and a countenance and voice so terrible that mortal man cannot bear the sight...but whilst we find evidence of mice, rats, ants, chimps and humans, I have yet to see such a creature as the bible describes (which may be all the better for me, I like my insides inside and prefer what's left of my sanity remain with me).
But still, I debate your idea of "higher". smarter, yes - we're smarter. but "higher"?
It's not that I think a human is "worth only as much as an ant", it's that i don't fully agree with your obviously biased viewpoint that, being a human, humans are better than X and therefore "higher", and that such arbitrary labels are slapped all over the animal kingdom because of criteria that are..well...arbitrary.
And finally, if we find a...super-human of some sort - how do we know it's god? I'm quite sure that the zorblaxians are quite convinced that with their five arms and four legs, ability to breathe underwater, two hearts, near-total memory recall and lifespan of six-hundred years are "higher" than humans...but would you agree? would that make them god?
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