where do you think those maorals come from? theydo not come from the apes as one researcher claimed, they come from the Bible and have preceeded every secular nation on earth thus secularists were taught biblical principles andm orals even though it is not credited.
This is nonsense. The bible promotes all sorts of horrible evils: genocide, slavery, rape, family abandonment etc.
In any case, people do not get morality from the bible, they rummage around in it to justify whatever it is they want to do to start with. It has been used to justify apartheid, slavery, war, and a vast array of hatreds and bigotries.
The morals needed to allow people to live together are obvious to anyone with a brain. Of course this basis is mentioned by religions. Most of the rest is a con job designed to subject people to the will of priests, pastors, vicar, rabbis, imams - the whole sorry rabble.
The end effect of relion is people who are actually incapable of real moral reasoning, but rather are terrified followers of arbitrary rules.
Edited by Woodsy, : spelling fix