D&D and satanisim

Ya, relaxing sexual taboos such as dancing.Although this site is a forum discussion, it represents the word going around evangelical Christian circles at the time of my youth, circa 1975.

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DISNEY MOVIES WITH WITCHCRAFT AND OCCULT THEMES...
CINDERELLA: Cinderella is the story of a girl being oppressed by her step sisters and stepmother. Then her demonic fairy godmother magically gives her everything she needs to make the prince fall in love with her in one night (all good gifts come from God not demons).

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What do you expect from a group of people who thought bowling and women wearing pants were sins until about 10 years ago. Some still think that.

I think you've misunderstood Phat.He was just defining evil in general as an absence of god. He was not referring to some specific evil with the word 'that'. Its a phrase. All that X is, is blah blah blah. Granted, it was ambiguous. The christians think its evil because they don't understand it and it contains magic and demons n'stuff. They are quick to judge, which is wierd because its against their religion The results were probably: "Wow, my son is a huge dork." just playin' I think what Phat was saying is that if evil is defined as the absence of god, then the game could be considered evil in that it is not with god (at least not the real god). In this case, yes, gardening without god is evil too

4. Child thinks that magic is real and is okay to practice, which is something the Bible condemns.

Reading your post and Asgara I see what Phat likely meant in his post:

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All {snip} evil is the absense of God

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This however does immediately beg the question of what isn't evil? Sure D&D has magic, demons, dieties, and a group of poor saps trying not to get eaten by a red dragon; but its all imagination. Novels, tv shows, video games, music, etc all have the same idea - creating a world of fiction for entertainment purposes. That is such a bizarre stance to take on issues. I suppose its easy as long as one doesn't actually think about the contradictions they make in their lives. Exactly! Being a dork is not evil. Then there is no hope for someone who thinks like that. Life is full of explorations that do not revolve around God, church, or Bible readings. Rejecting D&D out of hand is closed minded, thinking about the position and following it to its logical end is to reject nearly everything the world has to offer!

No its the thinking process. Anytime someone attempts to imagine their own power and control, evil is afoot. Im tongue-in-cheek on D&D being harmful. Its no worse than many other things people do that subconsciously Deifies our minds and causes us to become our own god, so to speak.

So when I teach my patients to do just that, I'm teaching them evil?You cannot be serious.

I could well be serious. This whole idea of humans empowering themselves to move beyond the "myth" of God will eventually lead to more problems than cleaning up global fundamentalism will solve.My argument rests on my belief that humans are incapable of making altruistic decisions beyond serving their own interests.We are supposed to think and reason, but to dismiss the need for God in everyday life will prove to be a costly mistake.

Well then you must have a massive issue with cogntive behavioural therapy: how you can see helping people to help themsleves as being in any way negative is beyond me.

Hi Phatboy,
Have to disagree with you here; So when I go out and do voluntary work for a local conservation charity, I'm acting out of self interest? How? The work is often miserable and the wildlife never thanks you (ingrates!).
Humans are altruistic.
Christians are altruistic.
Atheists are altruistic.
Bonobos are altruistic.
I'm sure that not all humans are altruistic, many are venal, selfish grasping scum, but I'm not sure that you can draw a religious dividing line between the two groups. Your observations seem to be based upon the idea that all morality stems from God, but if that were the case, wouldn't we see religious folks only being altruistic to one another, whilst atheists were wholly selfish? This just isn't what we see.

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Mutate and Survive

wow O.Oof course i have to disagree, with a screen name stolen from Forgotten Realms.

Don't advertise your name: Drizzt will find you.

he got lucky in Calimport.

Ah yes, I was about fourteen when i first started high school. I lived in a small town and I was reading the D&D books but didn't really tell anybody about it.Then the Christians got up in arms and their heads started exploding over it.My school even held a couple of rallies against it for two years straight.I was living in a small town of about a thousand people of whom the vast majority considered themselves Christians.But, at the time I believed the crazy stories going around because I had not yet been introduced to things like critical thinking.In fact one teacher (during a rally)said he had actually read the books and when he got really super scared he tried to burn them, but they wouldn't burn. At least not until he poured holy water on the books. Then they burned. So surely that was the absolute proof of the existence of the devil, at least according to him.So my mom threw away a hundred and fifty dollars worth of classic D&D books.

wow that is hilarious.I just got back from GenCon 2010, where I played D&D for 4 days striaght. it was great, I got to 18th level.