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Author Topic:   Doesn't the distance of stars disprove the young earth theory?
Nuimshaan
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Message 69 of 138 (573533)
08-11-2010 7:51 PM


Location in this system does not constitue time topagraphy. Just because we are here, have some technology, and are seeing things far away...does not mean the age of those things. Distances between objects in space does not conclude their age.
IF you say that I am measuring light from a distant star that took twelve million years to travel here...your not saying how old the earth is or the star....in fact...your calculations of how long it took the light to reach you are incorrect and incorrect in intention for dtermining time.
Because all stars alive right now are visible from some location in space, whether it's closer or farther away from them....does not age them in any respect.
As far as time travel is concerned...moving from one location to another will take time even if measured in milliseconds...and a different distant location from the start does not promote a new physical force to invoke time blurring.
The speed at which an object moves from one location to another does not effect the time continuom, in fact, speed will only determine the how fast the object moved from one location to another.
If time dilation is defined as moving faster equals less time of travel then it is true.
But in no sense of physica wil moving faster toward a destination inhibit the progression of time, and cause physics to occur slower in order for the trip to take longer than what actually occurred from the movement of said object from one location to another with a given speed.
Speed is not a factor to control time. Time can witness absolute rest for absolutely the longest time imaginable.

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Nuimshaan
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Message 70 of 138 (573537)
08-11-2010 8:05 PM


Why would you believe an alien species could pick you up and put you in their ship......fire up the engines and tear off at a rate of speed that would allow you to see into the past.....you are moving from one location to another.
It's important to note that all movements like this...regardless of speed, they ar no longer located where they once were.
If you're saying I moved so fast in that direction...that I saw the prehistoric Earth...you are wrong...Time did not dilate for you...but the distance for which you have traveled has increased greatly...because you were moving at such a super luminal speed, you are now very far away from where you took off. And you got there in a very short period of time because you were moving so fast.
IT's interesting to note that the average Einstein mind has trouble with speeds in excess of their sight of it.
Superluminal speeds are in no way different than slow highway speeds...they both have these same things in common"
1. A vehicle
2. A passenger
3. A speed of travel
4. And a direction (up, down, right, left, straight, circular, etc.)
Since all objects in movement fall under this irrefutable law, so does time for them.
The faster you move, the quicker you will get there....and moving infinately faster each time will only register a smaller fraction of time on the Timex 5000 stopwatch, able to register laps down to the 8.5x10-190 fractions of time for movement of super luminal yet syper real objects really moving that fast and being located in space while they move.
Edited by Admin, : Shorten long line.

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Nuimshaan
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Message 71 of 138 (573539)
08-11-2010 8:16 PM


When I speak of a proposed object moving from one edge of the universe to the other in a few seconds, I am speaking of a real object safely moving from one loctaion to another and arriving in tact.
I am speaking of real science. Not a theory.
Any object moving at any speed will take time to move from location to another, even if sensitibve instrumentation is required to calculate it's speed of travel.
If you do not have the object, and it is not moving, and has no direction, you do not have a theory or any science.
If you are talking about any object that moves, regardless of speed you are an idiot to say it took any longer than it took for that object to cross that space.
There are no transitions between real and unreal travel, there are only different locations. Arriving at different location because you have super luminally moved to that location, does not equal time travel.
It equals location travel and location you cannot avoid.
You Einstein minded people cannot avoid admitting you speak of a real object, and a real destination, and a real speed at which the object moved from said location to location....and you will concede it took time, because you have already admitted it was an object, it moved, from here to there, and did it this fast.
You will be seen as the village idiot when you argue these facts in a scientific setting....so so lets get our cards out on the table, and see who has the best hand...I bet Nuimshaan wins.

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Nuimshaan
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Message 102 of 138 (575078)
08-18-2010 8:35 PM


Distance between two objects is not a clear indicator of age.
You admit that though the stars are far away....whereever they are located....they are alive right NOW.
If I can imagine a distant planet with life on it...I can admit they are over there, and I am here....that in no way determines who's older.
Being there or being here...does not determine who's older.
Thank you, Nuimshaan

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