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riVeRraT
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Message 26 of 76 (570885)
07-29-2010 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DBlevins
07-26-2010 2:44 PM


"DBlevins" writes:
There are so many interesting aspects to this kind of thought process that I had to see what others thought about this (new to me) idea that has come up within one christian blog and a christian ministery.
For some reason, I am not getting what you said. Are you saying Christians are more likely to believe in UFO's and demons or not?

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riVeRraT
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Message 53 of 76 (572493)
08-06-2010 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
07-29-2010 11:23 AM


Re: Sense?
"jar" writes:
There is evidence that UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) exist. There is no evidence God exists.
There is evidence that God exists, subjective evidence, which at one point in time was objective.
Of course there is evidence UFO's exist, but there is no evidence that aliens exist.

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riVeRraT
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Message 65 of 76 (572668)
08-06-2010 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Huntard
08-06-2010 8:06 AM


Re: Sense?
"Huntard" writes:
Huh? How does objective evidence turn into subjective evidence?
When it becomes history, and the person doing it is dead. Or if we have no way of proving it because of our inabilities.

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riVeRraT
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Message 66 of 76 (572669)
08-06-2010 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by DBlevins
08-06-2010 12:30 PM


Re: Ufo's sans aliens?
"DBlevins" writes:
I am curious what logical leap made you determine that ufo's exist but aliens don't?
Seriously, I am curious.
There is no logical leap. You made the illogical leap. You automatically tie UFO's with alien life forms, which is not the case. UFO, is just that, an unidentified flying object, which could be one of a million things.
I have personally seen an UFO, but that doesn't mean that aliens exist. It just means I saw something in the sky, that was flying, and I could not make out what it was. I will never know. Tons and tons of UFO sightings are reported every day. Does that mean aliens exist? There are actual pictures, and real evidence of UFO existences, but just what are those things? Top secret military aircraft, hallucinations, who knows what? Doesn't mean aliens.

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riVeRraT
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Message 67 of 76 (572670)
08-07-2010 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by DBlevins
08-06-2010 5:15 PM


Assuming too much
"DBlevins" writes:
I understand your position that ufo's, by definition exist, but I think there is a not so subtle difference between what you are saying and what RR believes.
You assume too much then. More evidence of the craziness in this forum. How you could look at two almost identical posts, and think one means one thing, and the other something different. Onifire got it, why didn't you? Please tell me why...
jar take notice please.
Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.
Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 68 of 76 (572671)
08-07-2010 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Huntard
08-06-2010 5:21 PM


Re: Ufo's sans aliens?
To contrast it with something for which evidence is never seen (god), is my guess.
Totally off track.
"Huntard" writes:
None, they're both equally faulty conclusions.
palm face plant***
You my friend are a retard. The only logical fallacy around here is you.
How could you take DBlevins conclusion, and label it riverrat's, then accuse me of a logical fallacy when he has no clue what I am talking about, because he can't see through his own short comings?

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 73 of 76 (572992)
08-09-2010 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by ringo
08-07-2010 12:38 AM


Re: Assuming too much
"ringo" writes:
Everybody's crazy but you, Napoleon.
Oh I'm crazy alright.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 74 of 76 (572994)
08-09-2010 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by DBlevins
08-07-2010 1:19 AM


Re: Ufo's sans aliens?
DBlevins" writes:
Ok, I guess I was wrong in thinking you believed ufo's to be demonic apparations of sorts. My appologies!
No problem!
I think it is totally stupid to think demons need UFO's to show up. My stance is, UFO's exist (the technical explanation), but there is no proof of alien spacecraft, or aliens. They may exist. Demons may exist also, but that is a whole other story.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 447 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 76 of 76 (573085)
08-09-2010 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by DBlevins
08-09-2010 1:24 PM


Re: Ufo's sans aliens?
Thanks, you got my respect.

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