Unintelligent design (recurrent laryngeal nerve)

A fly is a fly. It always has been and thats all it ever will be.

we would be surrounded by millions and millions of transitional forms

jar writes:There is also the fact that the designer is too stupid to adopt good ideas.Consider cars. There are many species or kinds of cars, Packard, Ford, Chevy, Mercedes, Humber, DKW, AutoUnion, Alfa Romeo, Citroen just as there are many kinds of mammals, lions, tigers, bears, man, orangutan, elephant, horse and of course, ohmys.The difference between something designed, like cars, and those things that are not designed like mammals though can be seen in the difference in how good ideas do not propagate through out the living species or kinds.In the early 1920s power windshield wipers appeared on the first car. Within only a few years they were found on every car.In 1923 the first standard equipment radio appeared. Within only a few years they were found on every car.In 1939, Buick introduced turn signals. Within only a few years they were found on every car.The list is almost endless.

• electric wipers instead of vacuum.
• internal combustion engines.
• radial tires.
• heaters.
• air conditioning.
• roll down windows.
• headlights.
• mirrors.
• steering wheels.
• tops.
• spare tires.
• space saver spares.
• starters.
• the change from generator to alternator.

I could go on but that list should give you an idea.In each instance this was a new feature that first appeared in only one make, sometimes only one model of a car. The designer though took good ideas from one model and applied those same ideas to EVERY model.We do not see that when we look at examples of living critters. The humans brain is not then repeated in all mammals, the eagles eyes are not then repeated in all animals, good features, advances do not get incorporated across all the makes and models, species or kind, of mammals.Looking at living critters what we find is NOT Intelligent Design.

This thread is about whether the recurrent laryngeal nerve is really an example of unintelligent design.

We do not see that when we look at examples of living critters. The humans brain is not then repeated in all mammals, the eagles eyes are not then repeated in all animals, good features, advances do not get incorporated across all the makes and models, species or kind, of mammals.

Look around you. Every species you see is a transitional form.

ICDESIGN writes:This is one of your proofs Crash? I'm not sure if I should laugh or puke. A fly is a fly. It always has been and thats all it ever will be.

Huntard writes:I wonder how long until "They're still plants/They're still bacteria/They're still flies". comes up.

ICDESIGN writes:you haven't given me anything to respond to but a bunch of evo-babble in this entire post.

If you were even a fraction as smart as you think you are you would understand that if Macro-evolution had been taking place all this time we would be surrounded by millions and millions of transitional forms.

Is that what we see in the REAL world?

No it isn't. We see every species staying within its own kind just like the bible has clearly stated all along.

I mean go back and read the foolish examples you just gave me.

You've got to be kidding.

Your waisting my time Crash & burn.

ICDESIGN writes:Duh...OK thank you.

Not really. We are talking about good ideas being copied across marques but also being modified as needed for the particular critter. The idea of a laryngeal nerve as implemented in living mammals is a great example of piss poor design. The designer that used the wiring harness for a giraffe in a mouse would be fired in a blue second.

I guess you will also admit that Crash is, in fact, pretty smart.